todays young generation

bass

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tell yall what, here in east texas if it aint a cow, a bale of hay, or a pine tree today's young people don't know squat. i went to the local feed and seed to try to get a hand full of yellow dent corn, green beans, and purple hull peas so i can get some planter plates.

to late for the peas and beans; however the corn was another story. first, the young girl, high school age i guess, did not know what yellow dent was. second she came out with some white corn, still no yellow dent, third she came out with some sweet corn seed. at least she got the color right.

the owner came out and jumped in. he told her to go get that 10lb bag.. bingo, yellow dent. he explained to here about the three different bags of seeds that she had brought out.

but what was really sad, was that she did not know the difference between an open pollinated and a hybrid; however she could tell me what an F1 heifer is.

just chaps my back side.

bass
 
Talk about funny to watch, if I check out at a store and the cost was say $10.05 and I give them a Twenty plus a nickel THEY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CHANGE TO GIVE BACK LOL that nickel completely baffles them, they drag out their cell phone computer and scratch their heads ........... Just to embarrass my kids when we go to a restaurant and this bubbly chick comes over with her phony sounding canned speech "HI IM SHEILA AND I WILL BE YOUR SERVER" I respond with "HI Im John and I will be your customer" then I ask if they will trade money for food which really throws them a curve lol

John T
 
What really chaps me is when they wont listen,dont want to learn,or think I'm just some crazy 'old man' who doesn't know his
back side from a hole in the ground.
 
In the days before these new cash registers, I used to go into a late night restaurant where (invariably) Wanda was the waitress/cashier (and NOT the sharpest of personnel). I always ordered a combo that came to ~ $4.49 for which I always handed her a $5 and four pennies. I can't tell you how many times I got back the wrong change.
On another occasion (at a fast food place) a customer asked the young attendant to give him a couple of hamburgers - you should have seen the blank stare and look of bewilderment. The young girl didn't know how many a couple were - the customer had to revise his order and ask for two burgers.
Good thing we do NOT have to write out orders in cursive these days. How many high schoolers would recognize that?
 
Did you know everything when you were her age? Only problem with young people is OLD PEOPLE! If someone would just take 10 minutes to sit
down and teach instead of gripping about everything young people dont know, the world would be a lot better place all around. BTW, was
she on a Farmall?
 
You can't know if haven't learned. You can't learn without some type of experience. Our society has really limited the chance for young people to get any experience other than to entertain themselves. Most of their parents no longer run mom and pop businesses. Most businesses can't hire kids until they are 16 or 18 due to the business liability insurance and worker laws. Very few kids get to live on a farm. Slightly more get to live in the country. Around here many that live in the country are in subdivisions with covenants that allow only horses and chickens.

Most families don't grow gardens. They aren't home enough, they don't can or freeze. Food is often so cheap and good at the store that they see no point in it. Yet another place where the kids lost a chance at an experience.

As a high school teacher I see a lot of good kids with good intentions that appear to be as dumb as a rock. They actually are intelligent and want to learn. They have had very little opportunity to learn things that were common knowledge a generation or two ago.

How much of what you learned when you were in your teens was taught to you by your father or grandfather? My experience has been that around half of the young people today miss both of those influences. The divorce rate has made it to where kids have no dad, 3 "dads", and no connection with a grandparent.

I agree our country is heading down a scary road as far as productivity is concerned if these kids don't learn and get a work ethic and some knowledge. But we're fools if we think they are just going to have it inherently and arrogant if we think we did.
 
Wife and I went to Lowe's last night to order a door for the farmhouse. No one around the mill work desk. Punched the button for service and a man in his 50's appeared from down an aisle. Told him we needed to formally order the special order door we had gotten a bid for last week. He told us he didn't even know how to turn on their computer, let alone process the order. What he DID do was punch the service button over and over. Still no one came. Finally my wife pulled out her cell phone and called the store. Told the operator what was going on and to get someone back there ASAP. A manager appeared a minute later.

It isn't just the kids.
 
(quoted from post at 14:21:17 12/01/15) Always remember, you did not know everything when you were in your teens like you do now, we all have to learn.
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I am close to 70 and don't know what Yellow Dent corn is either. Not stupid, just no occasion to have come across it.
 
Yeah, go ahead and make fun of those kids! I bet they do stuff with their smart phones all the time you
can't even imagine doing!
 
bass,

Just what is the difference between a hybrid and an open pollinated seed?

By the way, when you start a new paragraph you are supposed to use a capital letter on the first word; bet she knows that.

LA in WI
 
Yup John T - I've had the same experience more than few times.

Funniest (or perhaps most alarming) was at a Dunkin Donuts. Bill came to $5.10. So I gave the teenage clerk a $10 bill plus a dime. She got this "deer in the headlights" look then called over another clerk. They conversed briefly then BOTH dug out their smart phones and began punching away. Amazingly neither was able to use the phones' calculator function to figure the change. Finally the manager stepped in, rolled her eyes, fished a five from the cash drawer and handed it to me.

Geez...
 
John,

I go a step further - I say, "My name is Stan and I will be your customer". Then I go ahead and introduce everybody in our group and tell the server there will be a test later. Some of them do pretty good on the names.

Stan
 
When I was a kid, and not a young goat, Dad was in the US Air Force. No matter where we were at we had a garden. I asked the girl at the counter that was helping me, if she ever took or was taking agg in school, and she said yes.

So

My question then: what are they teaching today? My best bet here in east Texas: beef cattle production, forestry, and pasture mgt, maybe

bass
 
Let's get to the root of the problem with kids these days. The way kids are is not as much their fault as it is their parents.
They can't learn what is not taught. Whose responsibility is it?
 
If I was an 18 year old that was told the past generations had handed me $150,000 in debt for benefits they received I might have a bit of a chip on my shoulder too.
 
Your right but can she write a compound, complex sentence or factor by completing the square? or something simple like squaring a tractor shed using the Pythagorean Theorem
 
Bought some Grade 8 nuts / bolts at our farm n home, and the girl didn't know how much for that grade. I told her what the listed price was. I asked, by the way, do you know Grade 8 / Grade 5 / Grade 2, what it is, what the Grades mean, what the difference's are, what the hash-marks mean??? She said No,, nobody'd ever told me. I told her all about it. She was REAL appreciative, REAL glad, to know something important. I believe that's the way to handle it, they WANT to know, jsut tell them.
 
what puzzles me is the ones that can't spell or half read something but can text faster than a good secretary can type and all done in broken hyphenated English if you want to call it that and understand it fully,but tell one of them how to do a simple job in plain English and there face goes blank.
 
Mary and I were talking tonight about workers (hired help) and long story short, it seemed liked the kids who had been carried by their folks long after their feet were dragging on the floor were pretty entitled, show up and get paid. Kids that worked for what they got (even a little) had some idea that they had to earn their keep. I had to agree.

There was a lot more, but I think you know what I mean.

Greg
 
You"re right about the Grouchy Old Man part! Yep, I"ll be there, but not sure which month yet.

Have a Merry Christmas!

Stan
 
I am 77 years old, grew up on a vegetable farm in south Texas, did not ever plant corn -- I wouldn't have known the difference either--not the kids fault. However, later I got a PHD in agronomy.
 
Do you know how to type an upper case letter? (Capital letter)? If not . press and hold the 'Shift" key down. (way left side of keyboard) then type the letter you want. Just explaining something most of us learned from someone.
 
Why would you want dented corn anyway? If your looking for some "project" corn, send me your addy and I'll fix you up!
 
Instead of being a pita and watching her fail time
and time again trying to help you; couldn't you
have stepped in and showed her the difference
and what you were talking about? Not everyone is
born with knowledge. People that ridicule other
people for not knowing something they don't
without trying to teach them chaps my back side.
 
We have friends with kids now in their teens. When they were 9 and 11, the parents admitted they had to read what we wrote to the kids in their birthday cards as we wrote notes in cursive... something which they were no longer being taught in school.
 
I really like the service from the young people in stores. I Have found that they appreciate their jobs and try to please. I bet the girl in the farm store knows things we do not know. I do not know what a tablet. I pad. or mini pad is but surely the kids in the store know. I often ask kids for assistance and I am sure they help me more than I help them.
 
I have been following this topic since it started just to see where it would go. I cannot solely blame the problems with today’s youth on them, but society in general. Yes it is frustrating when dealing with someone that you would think would have the basic knowledge that they should to do the task at hand. I am an instructor for the military. I teach maintenance, wheel and track, everything that makes them go. I deal with a lot of younger people early 20’s and many seasoned mechanics also. Before I start any my classes I generally give some words to think about for the class starts, have thick skin (today everyone cries about anything), there is no such thing as a stupid question just stupid people; I’m here to make smarter people, Ask the right person the right question and remember the answer, Knowledge is power; knowledge is the asset that will stay with you.

A lot of the younger ones ask how do I know so much, I tell them it comes with always asking how and why, learning from failures, if you don’t know the answer be honest; but do the research to find the answer, and being passionate about maintenance.
 
(quoted from post at 10:00:58 12/01/15) Did you know everything when you were her age? Only problem with young people is OLD PEOPLE! If someone would just take 10 minutes to sit
down and teach instead of gripping about everything young people dont know, the world would be a lot better place all around. BTW, was
she on a Farmall?

I was going to post the same thing. No one is born with all this knowledge, you have to learn at some point.

Sounds like she got a lesson today, now she knows. Next time you go in hopefully she can help you out.

Don't get me wrong, there's plenty to gripe about with kids these days but not everything is their fault.

K
 
I think it is more the government screwing around with the education system. No bad marks cause you will hurt their feelings. 2+2=5 sure if you think so. Not all kids are dumb and not all are smart. Biggest problem is the middle is sliding ! I have met kids who are very impressive and many times you find they have parents who give a crap. I don't want to really get going but the bottom of this country is SURE going into a hole.
 
I have been around cows most of my life and had to look up what an F1 heifer was. I never deal with purebred animals so that may explain my ignorance. I could answer your corn questions though. Arrogance is what really chaps my hide.
 
(quoted from post at 05:35:31 12/02/15) Instead of being a pita and watching her fail time
and time again trying to help you; couldn't you
have stepped in and showed her the difference
and what you were talking about? Not everyone is
born with knowledge. People that ridicule other
people for not knowing something they don't
without trying to teach them chaps my back side.

I had the same thoughts!
 

did you ever cover maint. on the M113 or the M60A3. 20 year vet here armor all the way.

clank, clank, clank,, whats that sound, a grunt in my sprocket going round and round.

bass
SCOUTS OUT!
 

I'll take a M113a2 over a HMMWV any day. You can nail tgs. shooting off a 113, could not hit nothing shooting off a m1025.

We, my plt., had to learn how to shoot the M2 .50cal all over
when we converted over to HMMWV'S
 
Those of you who are discerning enough to have noticed the obvious and progressive dumbing down are right on track but may not know how deliberate it all was.

Charlotte Iserbyt, was a senior policy advisor in the American educational department and now in her 80's is a Whistle Blower about what she found out.

One of Charlotte's web sites is "deliberatedumbingdown.com".

Here she is in one of many videos:
Charlotte

Charlotte often affectionately mentions Norman Dodd a congressional investigator and Whistle blower.
Listen to G. Edward Griffin interviewing Norman Dodd in his final years (83).
NormanDodd

If you really want the truth about education at the risk of having to change your opinion or admit that there was something seriously true that you didn't know, you'll find it via the links above.

Terry
 
If ya really want to baffle a waitress and get a chuckle. Ask them for a glass of diet water. The looks on their face is pricless........Kenny
 

Ken,

Back in the day (I'm 70 now) me and my best friend used to get a chuckle out of this.

When the waitress was taking orders in those days they would ask, "Soup er Juice?' So with enthusiasm I'd say, "Ya, SUPER JUICE, I'll have one of those!"

It never failed to throw them for a loop. :D
 

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