International 660 diesel, water in oil pan

Bill from Scotland · Nov 28, 2015

Just got delivery of a 660 diesel the other day, fires up easily from cold but only on 4 or 5 cylinders. Once really warm I think she is running on 5 but bad missfire particularly when you increase the engine speed. Just checked the oil level on dipstick and its way up, not good. I opened the oil pan drain screww and water draining out. Im thinking head gasket if Im lucky, could be cracked head or engine block if not. Im not sure if these engines are dry or wet liner as it could be a leak at one or more of these. Im thinking best bet is remove oil pan and do visual check for leaking coolant, could even pressurise the rad. What do you guys think, any advice welcome.Do we think misfire is linked to water issue?
Bill

RogerinIowa · Nov 28, 2015

You did not check oil level before firing it up?

the tractor vet · Nov 28, 2015

I H 660 is a dry sleeve D282 engine . SOOOOoooooo it could be IF you lucky it is just a head gskt. But they do crack heads and i have seen a couple that have cracked the block in the cylinder walls. They are fixable . Heads can be fixed and blocks can be fixed If it is cracked in the cylinder wall ya just bore that hole out oversized and press in a repair sleeve and bore the repair sleeve to take a stock sleeve . Nothing that the all mighty buck won't fix.

rustred · Nov 28, 2015

have you looked in the rad for compression pressure? most times you will see the coolant bubbling with a crack in the head or gasket. for the coolant to leak in the pan its usually something that can be spotted easily, as a big crack. probably the block. u could drain the water out of pan plug before startup, as long as you dont have milk already, and then monitor leak while its running to see if the leak is there with engine warm or just leaking with cold engine. but if the leak is that bad just pull the pan and inspect.

Tom Dowling · Nov 28, 2015

you say water in oil----did you mean anti-freeze? or was it water? I was getting water in my pan (not anti-freeze) rain was seeping around exhaust pipe threads

RC Brooks · Nov 28, 2015

Head gaskets are a common maintenance part on these. If its water, not coolant, water is coming in through exhaust.

George 3 · Nov 28, 2015

(quoted from post at 01:33:17 11/29/15) Head gaskets are a common maintenance part on these. If its water, not coolant, water is coming in through exhaust.

Correct, but if it is antifreeze, could it be from a leaking oil cooler if it has sat for a long time. I know the oil pressure is higher so is there any oil slicks in the radiator? If not rule out the oil cooler.

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