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Noah W 08-17-2012 06:12:06 66.226.53.217 Report to Moderator	Any one out there have any ideas on how to remove and replace the starter on a 450C with the loader arms in the lowered position? From what I can see(ain't much), unless I am missing something, there does not seem to be any way to access the starter with the arms lowered. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated. Noah W [Reply]   [No Email]
Brian Allen 10-07-2012 16:58:53 142.169.215.28 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   Noah That solenoid should be available at any shop carrying heavy equipment parts. Brian [Reply]  [No Email]
Noah W 10-07-2012 06:13:04 66.44.250.195 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   Thanks for all the replies. Finally got the dang thing started. Got the starter to spin by direct power from the solenoid. The Bendix still wouldn't engage with the starter button...just clicked. Then it hit me like an eight pound sledge. See if the Bendix will engage if I go direct to starter with power and at the same time hit the starter button. It did. Burnt up an old screw driver, but it finally started. It is now safely ensconced in the shed with the bucket securely held up by two six inch by eight foot fence posts. Thinking only the solenoid needs replacing since the starter spins like a brand new one(less than 50 starts). Looked all over the net to see if they(solenoids) are available with no luck. Does anyone out there know if you can get the solenoid only? Thanks, Noah W [Reply]  [No Email]
randaleky 08-20-2012 03:55:10 199.115.12.254 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   have you tried to engage starter by using a screwdriver on the solenoid and bypass them both ? turn key switch on and cross between the positive side (big) lug on solenoid and one of the smaller lugs. [Reply]  [No Email]
Noah W 08-18-2012 05:32:56 66.226.53.217 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   Thanks for all the replies. KST... Thought about dropping the belly pan. The solenoid clicks but the starter won't engage. In the past with, with regular use, there has been only been the occasional problem that a good whack on the starter has been able to fix. It sat for a little longer than usual this go round. The hammer whack ain't done much good this time. RS...I have thought about that approach. Just have to find a jack big enough to do it. SW... It has a roll cage. Hadn't thought about using a come along or ratchet strap to lift it. Yeah, I dread having to drop the belly pan. Still studying on it and open to suggestions. Noah W [Reply]  [No Email]
Stick welding 08-17-2012 21:06:13 96.53.210.246 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   I have a similar size Cat track loader and I don't even want to think about having to change the starter. I did however lose oil pressure and couldn't run the machine. I took the front bucket off and got pulled out of the mud by a D7. In order to get at the engine, which I ended up having to pull, I had my neighbor hold back the loader control valve and I lifted the boom with my skid steer. Then I duct taped a piece of angle iron on the cylinder so the boom couldn't come down. I think if you had a neighbor with a loader you could pull the control valve back and lift the boom. If your machine has the roll bar you should be able to do the same thing using a come-a-long or a 2" ratchet strap to lift the boom and block it. It's a bunch of work but will make things a whole lot easier than trying to do it from underneath. [Reply]  [No Email]
Roy Suomi 08-17-2012 20:13:01 76.190.200.252 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   It isn't any fun...I could do it in my earlier days...But, not any more..The best way is to lock the brakes, CAREFULLY jack the bucket off the ground in stages and wood block it up as you go, all the while releasing the loader control valve so the whole machine isn't being jacked up..If you can get it up so the bucket will roll down with the cutting edge 90 degrees to the ground, you've got it made..I tell all my customers with loaders to stick the cutting edge of the bucket in the ground before they shut it off... It's saved many a skinned knuckles.. [Reply]  [No Email]
k.s.tractor 08-17-2012 18:15:20 75.241.144.7 Report to Moderator	Re: JD 450C Track Loader in reply to Noah W, 08-17-2012 06:12:06   I hope you can get it started 1 last time. You might get to it by removing the belly pan a nasty job and even worse to put back on I parked mine with the bucket in a dump truck until I got the starter replaced and they don't last long [350C] [Reply]  [No Email]