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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

*** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? ***

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Big Boys Toys

11-12-2009 16:15:19
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What make and model dozers were these backhoe attachments available on? Did these work very well? Were the easy to use?

Thanks.




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beanpole788

11-19-2009 23:50:41
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
[heres a pic I took today http://www.tractorshed.com/gallery/oldads/o50010_sml.jpg



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beanpole788

11-19-2009 23:48:52
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
[heres a pic I took today



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steve n carol

11-15-2009 07:21:38
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Bob, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
having this crawler, now with grouser bars on the track pads, I thought I'd be able to do some hillside excavation work..... ha! My balls aren't large enough.
I'm across the valley above Banning. The mountains here are not as severe as Arrowhead (San Gorgonio range). I've eaten at the Cliffhanger. Is it still open?

Were you around when he did the work there?

There is an operator in the area that has Prosthesis legs and feet. A couple of Titanium rods and tennis shoes. The guy is an Ace with his excavator! Amazing to watch him work!!

sl

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beanpole788

11-15-2009 02:21:30
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to nitro, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
My dad bought a new JD 350 in 75' or 76' Drott 3in1 loader bucket detachable hoe and ripper. In the early 80's he bought a new CAT 941B w/detachable Deere hoe.He excavated up here in crestline/lake arrowhead area.Crazy stuff. He did the septic at the cliffhanger restaurant on hwy. 18.Didnt,and still doesn't seem possible..He also cut many of the bike trails up miller canyon at lake silverwood...The 350 did not have rops and he liked it because it didnt bang off trees.That tractor dug alot of dirt over the years and seemed to always run and get the job done..He bit off more than he could chew making payments on the cat and the new trailer..It went away..The 350 still plugged along..

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135 Fan

11-15-2009 10:32:54
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to beanpole788, 11-15-2009 02:21:30  
A 350 would have had a rops in 75/76. Did your dad take it off? Who set up the Deere hoe on the new Cat? I don't think 941's had a hoe option from Cat but I have seen a couple 941's with a different hoe adapted. Dave



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scot in pa

11-14-2009 13:19:38
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
I know a guy who used some heavy channel on a 3 pt backhoe to make it bolt to his t340.

He says he needs to put a PTO and PTO pump on it. It's real slow running off the crawler hydraulics.



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DonBC

11-13-2009 10:20:11
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
Years ago I had the option of buying either a used JD dozer with a backhoe or a used Allis H3 loader with a backhoe. I went with the H3 as I felt I could use a loader more than a dozer. I could easily mount or remove the backhoe attachment to the loader in about 5 minutes.



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steve n carol

11-13-2009 07:18:44
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
There are pix in the web that I have seen of some amazing backhoe stunts. One is a wheeled hoe climbing atop of a boxcar.
Another is a hoe that climbs and works on a traincar that carries gravel and the hoe distributes the rock along the tracks..

Cool stuff. I am sure everyone agrees that some of these operators are artists!
Myself??? I don't do art.....at all. Can't even color inside of the lines. :lol:
sl
This post was edited by steve n carol at 07:20:12 11/13/09.

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jdemaris

11-13-2009 07:01:12
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
We sold a few new Deere 350 and 450 dozers with hoes.
1010 dozers were also availble that way.

Also I know Oliver offered OC4 dozers with backhoes.

My Allis Chalmers HD4 dozer has a factory backoe also.

I'm going to assume that most major brand crawlers had standard rear toolbar mounts that fit loader or dozer. So, most could be had with any attachment that fit that toolbar.



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Farmerford

11-13-2009 05:47:56
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
I have a JD 455D loader with a JD 9300 backhoe. The 455D came from the factory with the backhoe plumbing and bracket. The backhoe is older than the machine, but works well. The backhoe swing is by rotary motor, and they are neither very strong nor durable. After replacing the seals mine works fine, but the rotary motor does not have the strength to hold the boom steady for scraping the side of a trench, for example. If I were getting a JD backhoe, I would look for a later model with cylinders rather than a motor for the swing function.

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135 Fan

11-13-2009 00:53:44
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
Cat D3 and more commonly the 931 loader series. I have a 931B with a 14 ft. quick detach hoe on the back. It's not real fast at anything but does lots of different jobs. The hoe has pretty good digging power and decent speed. Not too hard to use but takes a lot of experience to make the job look like you want it to. Cat, Case, JD all had hoes available for their smaller crawlers. I've had to do a bunch of work on mine but it's pretty reliable now and has a good transmission. The JD's apparently had tranny issues. The Cat hoes use the same seat as the loader which is a little awkward crawling over but I think is better than the JD that uses a seperate seat. The JD would give better visibility in a deep hole but you have climb on and off to move the machine. If you're in soft ground on the Cat, you can pull/push yourself out with the hoe and transmission. The JD you'd need someone else to help you. Dave

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steve n carol

11-12-2009 22:37:03
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to AJ., 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
I have one on my CASE 450. It's a 26-C. An extendable hoe. It's okay for what I need.
I actually bought the unit to clear some acreage, cut in a road (about a mile), build my house pad, (that's as far as I got), and dig the footings and septic system. But the economic turn-down has played into the project and I may never get past the pad, (which is certified and legal, and all of that), and wind up selling all of it.
I have used the hoe to dig out some big rocks and stumps, and to load the old tracks onto the trailer, that's about all that I used the hoe for.
Most of the time I run w/o the hoe on. The crawler has been outstanding. No complaints. I welded 1-3/8" grouser bars onto the track pads just before I put the new undercarriage under it. ($5,000).
Some have a counterweight to place on the back of the tractor, I do not. I get along just fine. I have it at my property in So. CAL. Kinda hilly and lots of Decomposed Granite, (like very coarse sand).
With the ROPS on the machine, you have to climb up and over to seat yourself into the hoe.
It looks like it could be adapted to go onto my Ford wheel tractor fairly easy. Something I have thought about.
If you'd like some pix, post an email and I'll send you some...sl

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DGH

11-12-2009 19:18:58
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
You find more Loader's with hoe's than you do Dozers. In my area there are lots of JD's mostly 350's and 450's but a few 550's. The 350 was a bit small for the weight of the hoe on the back. The 550 was note for tranny problems, so the 450 would be the one to look for. Cat put them on Loaders but I have never seen one on a dozer.



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Marlowe

11-12-2009 16:48:18
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Big Boys Toys, 11-12-2009 16:15:19  
all brands had them. i have a case 450 loader with a JD hoe on the back works good but the JD hoe is junk like most stuff made by JD



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Jim in N M

11-13-2009 12:44:30
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 Re: *** Dozer with Backhoe Attachment ?? *** in reply to Marlowe, 11-12-2009 16:48:18  

I've had three different crawler loaders with quick removeable backhoe's .the only problem seemed to be you couldn't grade worth a hoot with the hoe hanging on the back,it made the front to light! I never had any problem going from the hoe to the loader controls, And Oh yes they were all John Deere's and all trouble free. I don't judge all machines as being equil, Some guys just like certain brands,Me it JD. My friend lived and died with Case !! another friend had a Cat 941 with a hoe and loved it! Just my .02 cents worth...Jim in N M

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