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Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL

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chuckinnc

03-08-2005 13:36:24
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My fan belt broke on the old 4500, it looks like the front pump and shaft will have to come off to get the new belt over the crank pully. Is this the only way to get a new one on? It dont
look like you can remove the pump shaft from the
pully, not much room there.




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williamf

03-11-2005 03:52:46
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to chuckinnc, 03-08-2005 13:36:24  

I have a 3500TLB with the same arrangement. As Buddy said, it can be done. I don't think I could get at mine from the bottom, though. The back support (I don't know what else to call it)for the front axle would be in the way. I took the hood off and reached down from the left (sitting in the seat) side. The hardest part was getting the four bolts that hold the u-joint (yours does have a u-joint, right?) to the pulley loose. I could only get a wrench on two at a time, the one on top and the side closest to me. Once I got them loose enough to turn by hand I had to turn the engine half a turn to get the others. Not hard to turn, in fact I remember now needing to put it in gear to break the bolts loose without having it turn. (Think safety, do all this with the kill switch pulled.)
After the bolts were out I was able to work the belt through by wiggling the u-joint back and forth and working the belt through the (waddaya call that yoke thing) one wing at a time.
I still carry a cut-to-length belt in the tool box in case I pop one in the woods.
Wm
PS If yours has some other shaft arrangement, I take it all back.

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chuckinnnc

03-11-2005 05:31:26
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to williamf, 03-11-2005 03:52:46  
Thanks for all the help, I crawled under the
4500 with a 5/8 " socker and pull handle, turned
out to be a easy job.



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Buddy

03-09-2005 13:33:08
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to chuckinnc, 03-08-2005 13:36:24  
Yes you do have to remove the four bolts out of the front pulley that drives the hyd pump. You don"t have to remove the shaft, it will slide back towards the pump plenty enough for you to get the belt pass it. All of the bolts holding the shaft to the pulley can be removed from working through the bottom. Should be able to replace the belt less than a hour.



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ripley

03-09-2005 11:16:25
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to chuckinnc, 03-08-2005 13:36:24  
It would be much simplier to buy a length of the segemeted fan belt and put it around and then connect it. Parts stores should have it or Grizzly has it.



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MrBill

03-09-2005 06:03:05
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to chuckinnc, 03-08-2005 13:36:24  
It sounds like a common problem. On a JD 305, the hydraulic pump shaft runs off the front of the motor and has the pump in front of the radiator.

I took the old belt to the Auto parts house and got 2 belts I thought were about the right size, then returned the one I did not use.

I had to remove the bolts for the hyd. pump and pry it just far enough out of the way to work the belt between were the shaft splines slipped apart. I did not remove any hyd. lines or hoses, there was just enough flex to get stuff worked apart. Then was able to get everything put back together.

Good luck!
MrBill

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LAG

03-08-2005 21:33:49
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 Re: Replace fan belt on ford 4500TBL in reply to chuckinnc, 03-08-2005 13:36:24  
I don't know about the 4500 but the Case 580D I had was a real pain to replace the belt, So when I put a new one on. I put an extra belt on and tie strapped on the back side so if the belt broke, All I had to do is cut the straps and install the new one without the hassell of taking the pump off. Good luck! Larry



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