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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

Info on a Unit dozer or crain

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Guy Thompson

04-10-2004 09:44:38
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Hi,

Hopefully someone can help me out, and hopefully I am posting on the proper forum.

I am looking for some infomation on a "Unit" dozer. It may also be a crane, but I am not certain. It has the word 'Unit" forged into almost every part on it, so I am assuming that is the brand name.

Here is a little info on it. Here in NJ we have if you can belive it, a very large wooden area called the Pine Barrens. There is a Swamp called the Great Swamp here that in years past was logged for the cedar trees.

Aparently, this particular dozer or crane was damaged in some way that it could not get out of the swamp, so it was left there. Rumor has it that a helicopter was brought in and the crane portion and the engine were removed in that manor.

I would tend to think it was a crane because of the cable system on it. It was used to pick up the cedar logs after cutting, and then to load them on a vehicle to be removed.


You can see photo's at the links at the bottom of this post.

If anyone has any info on this type of vehicle, or know where I can get more info, I would appreciate it.

Thank You

Guy

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Greasy John (Or)

04-12-2004 07:41:46
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 Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 09:44:38  
Guy- these last 2 fellows--Robert and Keno shud be able perhaps, to give a serial number to compare yours too. 56801 is not on the small list I have. I'd like to see where this thread leads!! They were quite a little unit. I sent off a query to the historian in Milwaukee to see if there is a manufacturer's archive there. will let you know. John



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Guy Thompson

04-12-2004 07:55:05
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Greasy John (Or), 04-12-2004 07:41:46  
John,

Again, thanks for your help, and also to everyone else. I would love the know the year it was made. Everyone here talks about it, but nobody is ever sure, and I would like to have that info.

Guy



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KENO HENDERSON

04-11-2004 17:19:28
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 Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 09:44:38  
Unit crane and shovel corp unit 514-1020
we run one every day.(Scrap loader magnet).
If anyone has parts let me know.(might be
interested).If you need more information let
me know. keno



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TRAVIS MELICHAR

02-14-2005 17:07:23
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to KENO HENDERSON, 04-11-2004 17:19:28  
MY DAD JUST BOUGHT 40 ACRES AND THERE IS A BACKHOE SITTING BY ONE OF THE PONDS. I CANT FIND ANY WEB SITES PICTURES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE CAN GET IT STARTED THIS SPRING . SO WE NEED INFO .. MODEL 614 UNIT# AND SERIAL # ARE THE SAME 63085... HELP



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Guy Thompson

04-12-2004 15:08:21
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to KENO HENDERSON, 04-11-2004 17:19:28  
Keno,

What is the model number and year of yours? Someone told me the year is the first two digits of the model number. Since "mine" is 51802, the first two digits should be the year of yours if my info is correct. It may not be.

Thank You

Guy



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Robert

04-11-2004 15:58:06
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 Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 09:44:38  
It's a Unit Shovel manufactured by the Unit Shovel Equipment company of Milwaukee WI. My dad had one a 1949 model it was a 1/2 yard machine, backhoe and front loaderer bucket and crane boom, cable controled. About five years ago two Unit Shovels both operating were sold here in Ely, MN to some one in NE Minn. I have still have some parts for the 1/2 Unit Shovel in the storage pile.May have the parts manual and repair manual.

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Mike Fink

10-30-2004 13:06:45
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Robert, 04-11-2004 15:58:06  
I saw on a websiite where you, Robert, answered a question about a Unit Shovel in New Jersey. I have a 1020A Unit Crane in good working condition, but I need a gear for it to put the optional 5th clutch on. I have many spare parts, but not that particular one. This crane was used in Ely by a road construction company.



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james carroll

08-19-2004 09:27:16
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Robert, 04-11-2004 15:58:06  
Does anyone know where I can get info on a Unit Shovel, made in 1930 + or - . this is a 3/4 swing, with fordson tractor drive train. Would like the address or e-mail of any collectors assoc. or where I can obtain copies of repair manuals or the like.

the unit my friend has is in working condition & been in the family over 50 yrs.

Thanks

Jim



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Wingnut

04-11-2004 18:02:56
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Robert, 04-11-2004 15:58:06  
Robert....

Saw your post from Ely...Used to go up there and camp at Dorthys island...Beautiful country..

Wing



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Greasy John (Or.)

04-10-2004 20:27:11
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 Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 09:44:38  
Guy there shud be a ID plate in the cab area and some id on the engine if its still there. Nice pix but need some of the deck work gearing and control linkage to date it. Looks to be somewhere 48-60 hope this helps. Might go to HCEA.net and ask? John



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Guy Thompson

04-11-2004 18:19:25
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Greasy John (Or.), 04-10-2004 20:27:11  

Thank you all for your help.

John,

I have the serial number. Here is a photo of it.

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/Serial.jpg

The working link should be below. The serial number looks like 51802.

Guy

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Greasy John (Or.)

04-10-2004 14:40:51
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 Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 09:44:38  
You are correct -it was a Crane -small size maybe 10 tons. I ran one for a short time- Most I have saw the cab part set a couple feet above the deck gear hood which made for great visibility.If you run across any of the old Pacific Builder Magazines of the 60's to 80's you will see them advertised. Some were also equipped with a cable backhoe attachment. John



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Guy Thompson

04-10-2004 16:04:38
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 Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Greasy John (Or.), 04-10-2004 14:40:51  
John,

Thanks for the reply. Would you say this one was most likely used in the 60's or 50's?

Guy



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Greasy John

04-13-2004 17:43:03
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 Re: Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Guy Thompson, 04-10-2004 16:04:38  
Guy here is the info --all I could come up with you might write or call them--I specified Unit Crane Manu.Inc

Staff in the Milwaukee Central Library's Zeidler Humanities and Local
History Room might be able to help you. Here is the contact
information: Milwaukee Central Library Zeidler Humanities and Local History Room 814 W. Wisconsin Ave. Milwaukee WI 53233 Tel: 414.286.3061. This is dope from the head Librian in Milwaukee. hope it helps. John

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Guy Thompson

04-13-2004 17:53:37
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Info on a Unit dozer or crain in reply to Greasy John, 04-13-2004 17:43:03  
John,

Thanks for the info. I will check into it. I appreciate everyone's help.

At this point I wanted to update some of the people here ( New Jersey ) who were interested in this, so I passed this on to them tonight. Hopefully, I am somewhat accurate on what I have come up with.

All,

Those members who have visited the Swamp Monster may be interested in
some information I have dug up on that particular piece of equipment, and other pertinent info on it.


The Swamp Monster was manufactured by the "Unit" Crane and Shovel
Corporation of Waukesha (Milwaukee) Wisconsin, with offices or
manufacturing plants in other cities. They produced several different
models with different attachments on each one. Some were shovels, some
were cranes, and there is an attachment with a magnet to move around
scrap metal. So which particular model is ours?

In order to find that out, I took a photo of the serial number on a
recent visit there, and started asking questions. Here is what I have found.

Up until 1946, Unit used a common number system for all of their
equipment, with the last piece made that year being serial number 2663.

In 1947 they started using the last two digits of the year of completion
as the serial number prefix, which then would be followed by the
quantity number of the piece made to date. Here is the serial number of
the Monster:

http://www.njpinebarrens.com/~teegate/Serial.jpg

So given that number is 51802, we now know that it was produced in 1951.
I also learned that more than likely, it was built in November or
December of that year because the 802 is slightly less than the machines
built that year. I have not found out how many were actually built that
year.

I also learned that the two model numbers were the 514 and the 614, but
I have not learned as of yet how that is determined. But from the
photo's I have of it there is a clear consensus that it is a 614 which
has a capacity of 5/8 of a yard. I would then assume that the 514 was
the smaller one, with a capacity of 1/2 yards, and the size determines
the model.

Most of these units had the cab set a few feet above the deck gear hood
which made for good visibility.

But why was it left there and when? If anyone knows that I would be
interested in that information. One would think that if it was new
machine, the owners would not have left it there, and would have had it
repaired if it had broke down. I have found out that this machine was
made at least until 1960, so there would have most likely been parts for
it available. Could it have been left there in the 60's?


Here is a photo of a keychain showing the pre 1950 model.

http://www.exocoin.com/media/x-30-49.jpg

Guy

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