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Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL

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JDEM

02-06-2018 05:39:11




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"Lot less friction?" You believe that? Show me some test results that actually show that. Real synthetic oil has some proven advantages like higher heat durability and more stable viscosity. I have yet to see test results showing the "lot less friction" thing.




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Phil H

02-06-2018 10:42:57




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 Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL in reply to JDEM, 02-06-2018 05:39:11  
One other thing, every jet engine uses synthetic oil, there you put your life on the line.



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JDEM

02-06-2018 12:25:17




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 Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL in reply to Phil H, 02-06-2018 10:42:57  
Synthetic oil used in jets is not the same we usually get for cars and trucks. True synthetic oil was first used by Hitler in his military. The US military adopted it for jet engines because of its high heat durability and stable viscosity.

You did not mention what oil you are using and what is the Flash Point? I bet it is no higher then many conventional petro oils.



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Phil H

02-06-2018 14:18:27




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 Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL in reply to JDEM, 02-06-2018 12:25:17  
Sounds like you answered your own question, whether synthetic oil is better than petro based oil. Synthetic oil can be made to do just what you want it to do. Synthetic oil is used in reciprocating engines as well, and for some of the same reasons. Try starting a recip. with 50w oil in -20 temperatures, after diluting it with avgas, then you will appreciate synthetic oil even more. Everything has it's place, and when I was line driving dello 30 was the oil 90 percent of all the truckers used in their engines, and it still is a excellent oil, and now it is dello 15-30. By the way Hitler never developed anything but hatred, scientists developed the synthetic oil, but I get your meaning. I will go with science every time, when you are paying the bills, I go with what works. By the way what do you think about the Frantz filter? I used one on my Cummins and instead of the oil being black in 4 hours after an oil change, it was the color or honey, after a days running. This is another thing that works, believe me, it pays you back, big time. Like I said I go with what works!

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JDEM

02-07-2018 05:34:18




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 Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL in reply to Phil H, 02-06-2018 14:18:27  
Hitler ordered his scientists to come up with a petro alternative. I think it is fair to say he was responsible for its production.

US Military adopted its use. Later a military guy sold to the public as Amsoil.

Much of the oil sold now over-the-counter does NOT have the characteristics of the true synthetic oils like still used in jets or in race cars. Thus why I asked you what specific oil you are talking about.

Some petro-based Shell Rotella oils have higher heat durability then many oils sold as "pure synthetic."

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Phil H

02-06-2018 10:40:45




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 Re: SYNTHETIC DIESEL ENGINE OIL in reply to JDEM, 02-06-2018 05:39:11  
Temp gauges on both front and back rear diff. showed a lot lower temp. I used to be a line driver, and went every where you can imagine, and believe me, you watch every gauge you have in the cab. When you do it for a living you pay attention to what that equipment tells you and it shows you, right down to the penny. I didn't go around looking for some literature, I listened to what other drivers were saying, and saw for my own eyes the difference.

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