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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2

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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 15:09:36




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Im considering doing some trading for a little crawler dozer and was curious who has and uses them anymore. Either the International TD6 or a Caterpillar D2 dozer. Are parts still available for both and which one has the most power? I like the look of both and I love to wrench on old iron but dont want a money pit. Its more of a play toy then anything. Love the old stuff but parts seem tougher and tougher to find for most stuff 70s and older? Who has one or both an loves it and parts are everywhere? Im not looking to buy yours just wanna know your thoughts...unless your in Missouri and selling cheap!

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dozerbill66

01-04-2018 20:42:07




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Thanks for the Information JM , the D4 is too rough for me .



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dozerbill66

01-04-2018 15:17:44




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Under score between k_1 clark_120



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dozerbill66

01-04-2018 15:13:57




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see JM , I am sorry my PC is not working very good today , my Email address is c.clark_120@yahoo.com , thank you for sharing this information on the D4 with me . Hope we can meet sometime .



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dozerbill66

01-03-2018 19:35:15




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I think you have made a good choice , the D2 is a fine little tractor .



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RusTtrader

01-04-2018 14:47:31




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dozerbill66, 01-03-2018 19:35:15  
Dozerbill email me your number, if you are interested in that d4. I have some info to share.



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dozerbill66

01-03-2018 09:09:16




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Thanks Rus , I was thinking it was too far away from you for what I read . Now if JM doesn't want it I would drive to inspect it . I do like the Cat D4's , Good Luck on the TD6



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RusTtrader

01-03-2018 10:27:23




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dozerbill66, 01-03-2018 09:09:16  
Good luck on the D4, Im passing on the td6 for now and going for the D2. D4 sounds like a deal if your close. Share info and pics if you get it.



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dozerbill66

01-03-2018 08:27:35




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I am interested in the D4 you know about if you don't want it . Thanks



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jm.

01-04-2018 06:59:00




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dozerbill66, 01-03-2018 08:27:35  
Open you e mail and I will send you the information.



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RusTtrader

01-03-2018 08:58:43




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dozerbill66, 01-03-2018 08:27:35  
Yea Dozerbill, jm said its down in Tennessee. Too far for me, Im gonna hopefully get the one I found. It hasnt ran in about 5+ years. Figured Id start with the pony motor to get it running.



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dozerbill66

01-03-2018 08:26:28




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see I am interested in the D4 you know about if you don't want it . Thanks



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Gregthedc

01-02-2018 07:46:25




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Good Morning, I saw the ad, I live outside of Sedalia, not sure what part of Mo you live in. I have a T6 gas, that I have restored/rebuilt, not for sale, no blade or pto. I have had good luck with parts from Zimmermans outside of Versailes, I am sure you are familiar with them. I just wanted to touch base, parts are expensive!!! and some are in short supply. Good luck and if you want to visit drop a line
Greg

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RusTtrader

01-02-2018 08:20:06




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to Gregthedc, 01-02-2018 07:46:25  
Thanks Greg, sounds like you really like the IH T6, no blade and restored...bet its a nice one. How much horsepower is that gas motor? I live in High Ridge and I have seen Zimmermans sale ad before, good to know they have parts and are in state thanks bud!



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Gregthedc

01-03-2018 08:47:27




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-02-2018 08:20:06  
I think the engine is the same as the W 6 and a H tractor. It is fun to run and have had a lot of fun redoing it. Zimmermans are nice people to deal with, about 25 mi SE of me between Tipton and Versailles. If you ever get up this way holler at me



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RusTtrader

01-03-2018 19:44:04




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to Gregthedc, 01-03-2018 08:47:27  
That sounds good Greg, I may get parts from Zimmermans in the future if I do I will message you on here. Id love to see your tractor, I think your about 3 hours away from me.



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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 17:58:30




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Thanks DWF, I haven't seen many of either which is what lead me to this topic. I like the size of both machines and have the opportunity to buy either or both from different guys. With that said my budget only says I can have one, an Im actually considering doing some trading without touching cash. But either way I dont want either if I cant find parts fairly easy. The IH td6 parts just seem harder to find and lots more money at this point. Thanks for your input my friend.

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DWF

01-01-2018 17:25:08




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Around here when those were being used in businesses like logging and construction, home sites etc. it was hands down the TD-6's that the guys bought and liked. There was many of them around and still are a few around but they aren't used much. Have not seen a D2 around here for years. I'm not as old as JM but not far behind

DWF



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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 16:40:46




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Jm I wish you lived closer. Im in Missouri, unfortunately thats too far for me to travel for it. The one I found is almost $2000 firm an hasnt ran in 5 years so they say. But it looks decent and complete. As for my topic, no one has mentioned anything about td6's good or bad so Im leaning on the Cat at this point. Thanks for your knowledge and anyone else that knows these machines.



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jm.

01-01-2018 16:27:31




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
I do not know where you are located but there is a latter d4 , with like new undercarriage and hydraulic tilt blade. For sale about 30 minutes from me guy wants $2,000 and will take less. I am thinking it might be as new as 70s because it has dry type air filter. Was running when parked but has been sitting for 4 + years. Located middle Tennessee. Back on your d2/td6 deal the cat parts will be a lot easier to find. Most of the td6 parts have been used up even from the junk yards.

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jm.

01-01-2018 16:05:46




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Rus either is going to be a 60 year old crawler. I have owned both and now do have a d2 for show. When they were new I would give heads up to the Cat for working without breakdowns. For what work each would do about the same. You mentioned something you did not want a money pit. My thinking with either that is about all you would have but the enjoyment of working on one. Do not think you would get either in shape to accomplish much in the way of moving dirt. Just my experience and I am 74 and have been around crawlers a big part of my life.

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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 16:19:41




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to jm., 01-01-2018 16:05:46  
Thanks jm, I do enjoy wrenching on old stuff. I have a 60s backhoe, mf200 crawler loader and tractors that always need something so I get it. Do you think parts are easy to find or hard to get? Typically when hard to find the price is even higher. Easy to find, typically means its affordable but hurts if its a habit haha. Thanks for your help.



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caterpillar guy

01-01-2018 15:51:28




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
Skip the D-2 and go to a D-4 they have a better track alignment set up than the 2's did. The 2's had that shaft/pin or what have, you to hold the roller frame straight. The 4's had the bearing like a rod bearing in under the back end to hold the roller frame straight. I have never seen us have to do anything to ours for the bearing since I was around it in the 50 plus years I have lived here. Grandpa bought it new so know the history on it. Serial #4G8 that will tell you how old it is. The front idler and drive sprocket are spoked.

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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 16:03:33




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to caterpillar guy, 01-01-2018 15:51:28  
Thats awesome that you still have it after your grandpa buying it new. Amazing to read, I have found a D2 thats been sitting for years and a IH td6 thats been sitting even longer. Ive never seen a D4, let alone for sale in my area. Im seeking the challenge to get one running again more so to play around on my property. Not restoring for show. Mainly concerned about parts availability an a manual. Thanks for sharing...

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dpendzic

01-03-2018 06:32:15




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 16:03:33  
this is my 1955 D4 7U The D2 and D4's all were produced in narrow and wide gages



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dpendzic

01-01-2018 15:32:14




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:09:36  
I have a 1957 Cat d2 4u---you have to check out thoroughly any machine you buy to determine what repairs are needed. I have found that used Cat parts are pretty much available, and surprisingly Cat also has many new replacement parts, thee are also many after market suppliers of parts



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RusTtrader

01-01-2018 15:37:45




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dpendzic, 01-01-2018 15:32:14  
Thats a nice machine, do you work it or show it? Can you recommend any parts sources an where to get a repair manual?



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dpendzic

01-03-2018 06:24:21




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-01-2018 15:37:45  
I work it, not much but as a fun play toy---I buy just about all my manuals on ebay (i have five Cats) always buy a parts manual that covers your specific serial #, not one that says "and up" as Cat made improvements during production runs
I find a lot of parts just by googling the part number. The ACMOC website forum has a listing of new and old parts suppliers



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RusTtrader

01-03-2018 09:53:30




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dpendzic, 01-03-2018 06:24:21  
Nice...are all 5 D2s? Do you collect the manuals or sell them again?



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dpendzic

01-03-2018 15:10:38




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-03-2018 09:53:30  
I have a D2,D4,D6--all 1950 era machines.. then have two more modern machines--941b loader and D3B dozer that i use for clearing land--I just buy manuals that i need for each machine---any where from 2 to 5 manuals each



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RusTtrader

01-03-2018 19:50:03




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dpendzic, 01-03-2018 15:10:38  
Sounds like some nice machines DP, I haven't ever seen a 941, does it have a cab or rops? Do you do your own hauling? Im guessing yes, if you have an excavation service? Congrats on your collection, you should be proud of them...



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dpendzic

01-03-2018 20:35:10




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-03-2018 19:50:03  
I'm just a private owner and have them on my 200 acres in Ma. Clearing land and making trails. I have a tilt trailer that I can move the D2 on. The 941B is great for clearing trees.



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RusTtrader

01-04-2018 04:54:28




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to dpendzic, 01-03-2018 20:35:10  
Very nice bud, that one looks like the perfect size to get the job done. Ive never heard of that size. What year did they make them? Parts still easy to get?



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dpendzic

01-05-2018 08:14:36




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 Re: IH TD6 vs Caterpillar D2 in reply to RusTtrader, 01-04-2018 04:54:28  
mine is a 1972--don't know when what year they stopped making them when they switched to the 943 and 953 models which were hydrostatic drive--mine is powershift and pedal steer so very easy to run



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