Info on a 70's international 125 loader

Bherd

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Hello, I am looking at a 70's model IH track loader. It has been on a farm only for the last 21 yrs. The undercarriage was changed about 2 yrs ago. Is there any Cons that anyone can tell me about this machine or pros? I am looking at it to clean up my small farm. He is asking $8,400. Any imput will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
 
125 C or E will both have IH D239dt engine. That engine has a lower crankshaft balancer built along with the engine oil pump. The bottom side of the engine is very subject to coming apart if oil level gets low. The steering is all in oil and rarely gives problems if serviced and adjusted . Transmission will need the filters change if like most, seems folks just never get around to it. Final drives can be checked by pulling the plug there at the back, look for signs of water (Grey milky looking) in the oil or final drive low of oil. Hope the guy will not have it running when you get there see how it starts cold, they are notorious for having to have either to start. e-mail open have years of ih experience.
 
The machine must be in overall good shape for the owner considering it worthy of a new undercarriage so recently. What is the reason he is selling it now? A friend of mine had
several of those machines in his business and he couldn't say enough good about them as they performed very well for him.
 
Thank you for the replies. This guy has owned it on his farm for the past 6 yrs. The guy who owned it before him had it on his farm for 15yrs. He said he doesn't really need it anymore. On the undercarriage he said the sprockets and idler's have all been changing about 18 months ago. He said the guy who changed all of that said that the chain looked really good so that's the only thing that wasn't changed. I just want something to clean up our small farm and ditch lines. If thought about a skid steer or a mini X but the price of those and this is quite a bit. I do understand that these machines are pricey to work on when down so there are pros and cons on it. I am going to try and look at it Tuesday and I can tell you all more about it. Here are some pictures of the loader.
Thanks and anymore imput is greatly appreciated
Thank you
Ben
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I see the RH track chain is seized,, may come loose after being worked hard to say for sure,, just what I see may be why it looks to me they only changed the RH sprocket and not the LH side, they sure look like different sprockets to me
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I noticed the hump on the right track as well. I figured it was from sitting. Will they free up fairly easy or not? He said both sprockets have been changed. I will see Tuesday hopefully.
 
sometimes they do other times not so much, as for the sprockets he may have well changed both they just look different in the pics may just be the angle of the shot, I just know with a chain seized like that they can be real hard on sprockets if it slips when it hits that spot
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Thank you Case Nutty for your response. I was looking at a JD 450b and from what I've read on both of them. This is a better loader all around. Especially wet clutch verses dry. He also said the hour meter still works and it has almost 2500 actual hours. I know, it's hard for me to believe too and it being such a older machine. A little but if glimmer on that is it's been farm use only for the past 21yrs but I definitely am not holding my breath on that. Lol
 
Very odd 125 . Ninety percent of those built were shipped with a 4 and 1 bucket. rare to see a standard bucket. Sure would be worth more with the 4 and one. Going to take some time to free up that track but overall a good looking machine.
 
Thank you Jim for the response. I do wished it had the 4 in 1 for my use but a standard bucket will due. I hope the track isn't to bad to free up. What are the recommendations for freeing the track?
Thank you
 
Old folks would take and drive the unit in to a pond or standing water and let it sit for a few days then try running it back and forth. You can beat it down with a sledge hammer the just keep running it around . If you ever get it moving working it will help. May take so heat on a few of the links.
 
I bought an International 175C with some seized pins. In this case the machine had almost new rails and sprockets. It sat outside with infrequent use. It would move, but with some difficulty getting the seized pins to rotate around the sprockets. I would recommend letting some tension off of the tracks to avoid damage while working the kinks out. The thing that got mine freed up was operating on a hard packed gravel road. My tracks freed up 100% and I store it in a shed and have not had any further track problems. Others would know a lot more about tracks and chains than I do, and correct me if I am wrong, but it seems like with non-salt tracks, a new tighter pin is more likely to seize due to corrosion than older worn pins and bushings.
 
Thank you Jack's for the response. I have been thinking about the tracks and like I've said before I don't know lol. But I was thinking if I put about a 8" log on a hard drive way and backed over it where the track is seised and run it back up the sprocket back and forth if that my help free it up lol. Will some penitraiting spray help maybe or will it just attract grit later on?
Thank you
 
You will get different opinions on penetrating oil. I tried it on mine, but I don't think it made much
difference. There is a danger of damaging a sprocket or pin, or track adjuster, final drive, or front idler
because the seized pins will put excessive tension on the tracks, especially when they rotate on the
sprocket. There should be a fitting on the front idler yoke where you can release some pressure from the
track tensioner. Then I recommend operating it on a hard gravel or concrete surface. Don't do much turning
with the tracks loosened as you can throw a track.
 
Thank you Jack's for the helpful imput. That's good to know about loosening the track a little
 
I have a 125E. Good little machine. Mine has a deere motor in it...had a transplant at some point in its life, as the original motors were common for failure. The pins in the loader are wore out on mine, but a
good machine nonetheless.
 

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