backhoe loading

bfullmer

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Have a new 20 ft bumper pull trailer when I try to load my Case 580 backhoe the ramps fold up-the ramps have legs that go to the ground-it is hooked to a 1 ton truck- what am I doing wrong ?
 
Its hard to visualize what you are describing, but a bumper pull trailer with a 580 Case backhoe on it? Is that even enough trailer for one of these ? I'm sorry, but I've never hauled one of those on anything less than a tag trailer with a pintle hitch and a single axle dump. It sounds like the trailer is squashing down on the suspension. Maybe its just the description, why not show us a photo?
 
(quoted from post at 06:16:42 07/09/16) Have a new 20 ft bumper pull trailer when I try to load my Case 580 backhoe the ramps fold up-the ramps have legs that go to the ground-it is hooked to a 1 ton truck- what am I doing wrong ?
I have a 580C Case Backhoe and I pull mine with an 18 foot pintle hitch and a 88 Ford 350 with dual wheels , I have straight ramps only . I place a square block od wood between trailer ramps under back frame of trailer , this keeps trailer from raising tongue and taking pressure off rear tires of trailer . That is why when you are just about on trailer the weight of tractor is pushing rear of trailer down and ramps are rising behind . Go to sar mill and have them cut you some 6"x 6" and maybe 8"x 8" square oak blocks , maybe some 2" x 12" shims .
 
My name is Bill , would you like to talk about your loading of tractor , I think we have about the same sit up . I live in Alabama , moved here from Kentucky , my # is (502) 314-6435 tonight around 8:00 P. M. would be fine with me .
 
Know exactly what you mean. Put a block or jack stand under the center of the trailer frame between the ramps. Leave enough space to let the ramp legs touch the ground.

If you want to see an example of what's going on Billy, go to you tube and type in How not to load a truck. I'd share the link but it has so profanity in it and I don't want to get in trouble.
 
Sounds like what is happening is as your driving up on the ramps you are pushing the truck forward which in turn causes the ramps to try to lift up. Or you do not have the ramps all the way down/. Most ramps I have worked with on a trailer where the ramps had legs on them you have to lower the ramps and then drive backward some to set the leg down on the ground well
 
I did for get to say calk the front trailer tire as so the truck and trailer does not roll forward as tractor geru says , guess that is why I said we could talk by phone , you learn more by talk .
 
There really ought to be a standard on trailers that jacks be put on the rear of the trailers so they will not move during loading. really a safety thing. People tend to put things on trailers that are to close to the weight limit. If you had jacks on your trailer it would keep the trailer from going down in back instead of trying to push your trailer out of the way. blocks will work fine as long as there big blocks but if your not careful you might not get them out. My suggestion to anyone who loads a trailer and doesn't have jacks on them go cut you a 2/10 penetrated board the width of you trailer. get two 5 tons jacks. put them under your trailer where the ramps hinges when you load your equipment. leave trailer hooked to your truck with the emergency brake on. It will be safer and help prevent damage to the trailer, vehicle, and your self. Also trailers are made for certain weight class so you need to know what the weight of your machinery is and stay within those limits. whats more important. your money or your safety. just my 3 cents worth.
 
Local operator was loading a JD 450 dozer on a pintle hitch on a 5 yard dump. On a hill. When he got the dozer on the back half of the trailer, the trailer pivoted around the trailer axle and lifted the rear wheels of the dump truck off the ground; the wheels that had the parking brake holding everything on the hill. Everything started rolling down the hill, he eventually lost his left arm when the ROPS took it off when the 450 rolled at the end of the ride. So put some blocks behind and in front of the trailer wheels.

1 ton is insane for a 580, that's an accident waiting to happen. I towed a 9,000lb fifth wheel trailer with a 1 ton, and a 580 is 12,000 plus 3,000 for the trailer? The fifth wheel was white knuckle a lot of the time, can't imagine 60% more weight....
 
Backhoe is an early 60's model that weighs about 9500, the trailer is a 14,000 gvw, the truck is rated to pull 16,000-the truck even has sway control built in to the electric brake controller- I know my limits with towing had a few bad experiences.
 
Put some blocks like 6x6 or 8x8 stacked up to about an inch or so below the trailer frame between the ramps. LIkely the trailer will stay squatting on the blocks once it's loaded, that's okay because after you used a minimum of 4 grade 70 3/8" chain to chain 'er down you will pull ahead a couple of feet and simply drag the trailer off the blocking.
Go back and pick up the blocking, give everything a once over and your off to the races.

I've pulled 9 tons (18000 lbs) with my 1 ton dually truck without any problems and i've hauled that kind of weight over a thousand miles. Keep your truck and trailer in tip top shape, you'll be fine.
 

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