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Case 580ck transmission and power shuttle questions and problems
I have a 1967 Case 580ck S/N 8318229 diesel with a power shuttle. I got my reprint service manuals in the mail a couple days ago and have been pouring through them.
A couple immediate issues i'd like to diagnose are as follows:
The transmission cannot be shifted while the tractor is running. I push the clutch pedal in and if I attempt to shift form neutral to any gear the transmission grinds. If I start the tractor while in any gear, it stays in fine without popping out. If I am in gear and depress the clutch and move the shifter as fast as I can, it can switch form 1st to second or visa versa with no grinding, but if i'm too slow it will grind and I have to shutdown the tractor to shift it into gear. I don't really understand how the clutch works on this system.
Is the clutch a hydraulic valve that the stops the power shuttle from engaging so the transmission can be shifted? Can someone explain in layman's terms how this setup works so I can better understand to fix it. Or does this sound like some kind of synchronizer issue?
Ive never had an older tractor like this and never a shuttle shift.
This tractor seems to have shuttle forward and reverse but no neutral, is that correct or common?
The second issue is that when I go up any incline or have a load in the bucket, the tractor appears to have almost no power to move forward in 2nd 3rd or 4th gear. The RPM's stay high, but the tractor just does not want to go. All the fluids and filters were changed 6 months ago by previous owner. Case TCH was used in power shuttle. I have checked fluid level and they appear good and clean. I ordered some new filters just to be sure.
Any ideas?
Love the tractor so far. leaky hydraulic cylinders that i will be re-packing, but pretty happy with what I have so far for what I traded for it.
I have a 1967 Case 580ck S/N 8318229 diesel with a power shuttle. I got my reprint service manuals in the mail a couple days ago and have been pouring through them.
A couple immediate issues i'd like to diagnose are as follows:
The transmission cannot be shifted while the tractor is running. I push the clutch pedal in and if I attempt to shift form neutral to any gear the transmission grinds. If I start the tractor while in any gear, it stays in fine without popping out. If I am in gear and depress the clutch and move the shifter as fast as I can, it can switch form 1st to second or visa versa with no grinding, but if i'm too slow it will grind and I have to shutdown the tractor to shift it into gear. I don't really understand how the clutch works on this system.
Is the clutch a hydraulic valve that the stops the power shuttle from engaging so the transmission can be shifted? Can someone explain in layman's terms how this setup works so I can better understand to fix it. Or does this sound like some kind of synchronizer issue?
Ive never had an older tractor like this and never a shuttle shift.
This tractor seems to have shuttle forward and reverse but no neutral, is that correct or common?
The second issue is that when I go up any incline or have a load in the bucket, the tractor appears to have almost no power to move forward in 2nd 3rd or 4th gear. The RPM's stay high, but the tractor just does not want to go. All the fluids and filters were changed 6 months ago by previous owner. Case TCH was used in power shuttle. I have checked fluid level and they appear good and clean. I ordered some new filters just to be sure.
Any ideas?
Love the tractor so far. leaky hydraulic cylinders that i will be re-packing, but pretty happy with what I have so far for what I traded for it.