small crawler

bfullmer

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Why doesn't someone make a small crawler like the old case 310 or 350 ? It seems like there is a demand by farmers , small property owners. To get around emissions just buy an engine from someone else. I know about the one from northern tool from China, not heard anything good about it.
 
A dealer near me sells new small crawlers. Landini from Italy. 4 tons, 80-90 horse Perkins diesel, three-point hitch, etc. More machine then any Deere 350, Case 310, or Allis Chalmers HD4 ever was (in my opinion).
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Twice the weight of what? The smallest Landinis are around 4 tons, just like an Allis HD4, John Deere 1010, Case 350B, etc. A Case 310 is only around 2 1/2 tons.
 
Have you checked the price? Very pricy, average home owner or Joe blow wan be buying one to play with. They have a pretty good reputation in Italy.
 
Probably lower then if it was made in the US. About 10-15 years ago, the State of Michigan expressed a need for crawlers under 6 tons. Since none were made in the USA, John Deere got paid to refurbish old 350Cs for a fee of $85,000 each. So, $85,000 for an older but "rebuilt" machine.
 
I believe Komotsu makes a JD 350 sized crawler?

I was told by it's owner that they cost around $75,000? Which, I expect, is why most who want one don't have one.
 
(quoted from post at 16:18:05 11/11/14) Why doesn't someone make a small crawler like the old case 310 or 350 ? It seems like there is a demand by farmers , small property owners. To get around emissions just buy an engine from someone else. I know about the one from northern tool from China, not heard anything good about it.

Cost. You can rebuild and older small crawler for a lot less than a new one costs. Plus these days people tend to buy skid steers for the type of stuff small crawlers used to be used for. That's what I'm seeing anyway.
 
Yes, but a lot of things a skid-steer will not
do that a crawler can. They lack ground
clearance and get stuck pretty easy in muddy
areas. Been there, done that.

If a person is doing their own work - yes an
older dozer can be fixed up for less then the
price of a new one. Not always true though for
someone paying for all outside work. Fixing up
old crawlers can be extremely labor intensive.
Also with some types of older crawlers - there
IS no cost-effective way to fix. Take the John
Deere 350 series. They tend to get loose
housings between the trans and reverser case.
Once run too long - a new reverser case, trans
case, internal shafts, often side-frames, and
steering clutch housings are needed. At that
point - a person could spend a HUGE amout of
money having the work done IF the parts could
even be found. Deere Co. has discontiued many
parts - even for 350Cs and Ds.
 
I'm not arguing with ya JDe, I'm just saying most people will either rent a crawler, hire it done or get a skid steer, with tracks if they have to. Myself, if I didn't have my little 40C I'd be lost. I could never get back out of it what it's cost me to rebuild, but I beat that little thing all winter long and it keeps going.
 
I've got no argument with the expense of fixing up
an old crawler - or the expense of getting newer
not-so-worn one. If someone needed to do just one
or two jobs - rental is likely the way to go. For
people who figure they'll be doing things needing
equipment until they are drooling and strapped to
wheelchairs - self ownership is the way to go.
 

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