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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

need some recommendation for dozer or loader

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steven in tn

07-26-2014 19:29:36

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i have 2 farms that i am having some logging done about 15 acre on each farm with one being pine and hardwood mix and the other small pine. the one with all pine the stumps are smaller than a 5 gallon bucket, but the other property has some pine 20" or little bigger and hardwood about the same. on both property i need to do alot of pushing up stumps and piling brush, leveling ground, and little bit of road work. id like to have a 4 in 1 loader but not sure if it would hold up to all them stumps.i plan to let the stumps lay about a year and hope they will come up alittle easier than freshly cut. ( i know to dig under them instead of pushing against them.)but i also like the idea of a 6 way because it would be easier to level ground on my hillsides. what do yall recommend type and size? i think i would recommend cat or case.

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07-27-2014 05:42:46

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 Re: need some recommendation for dozer or loader in reply to steven in tn, 07-26-2014 19:29:36  
After a couple of crawlers, I went to rubbertire. Bertha here weighs 23,000 lbs. In my market, very little interest, they're cheap. No accident I bought a straight frame rather than articulated, it's more stable. My little mountain rises 400', I've been happy with my choice.

She was also the answer when I got into rocks too large for my crawler.

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Billy NY

07-26-2014 20:42:04

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 Re: need some recommendation for dozer or loader in reply to steven in tn, 07-26-2014 19:29:36  
For what you describe, a crawler loader may suffice with some of the stumps, I have cleared many easements for pipe in easier soils, mostly pine, your conditions may vary. Are these pines deep rooted, or like most I have seen, on the surface, widely spread out, if so, those should not be too hard to deal with. A crawler loader, ie; 955, 977 cat or any of the various models, would likely hold up fine, they're built for working hard in all kinds of conditions.

Crawler loaders, may have track frames that do NOT oscillate over uneven terrain, that was the difference on older caterpillar tractors, between the track frames on non crawler loaders, they did move independently, better on uneven terrain. I forget with modern dozers, ran enough of them, do know there were times all I had was a 955 or 977 and I wanted a dozer on the site, sometimes you need one or the other.

A smaller dozer with 6 way, you don't have the strength of a larger crawler with a c-frame or straight up push arms, though 6 way blades are quite strong, there is no support on the ends of the blade so pushing with the blade corners to uproot stumps ans such, you can't over do it. Just stating the difference.

It sounds to me you would be better off renting an excavator, de-stumping, then either going for a dozer with a 6way, renting same, use that to grade, restore, spread top soil, fill in stump holes etc. The 6way is nice for road building, though straight push arms with tilt will allow you to grade the road with a camber, you can control road base material or whatever you are pushing a lot better with a 6 way.

Hardwood stumps may take more than a year, I'd seriously consider an excavator for that task, you can rough grade as you move, knock the dirt off the root balls so you don't lose top soil, lot of mobility with one of those when clearing. A root rake would be ideal next but you can clean up without it.

I'd want A D6 size tractor for that work, but modern ones such as a D4G, D5G, are plenty, the older they get, I'd want more than say a D3 or a Komatsu D21, D37, class tractor.

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greg oliver

07-27-2014 02:50:31

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 Re: need some recommendation for dozer or loader in reply to Billy NY, 07-26-2014 20:42:04  
I agree 100% on using excavator. I have used dozer also but on cutting roots on big stumps you end up quite a hole to push them out then if many stumps clumped together, yahoo! We have a 18000 lb excavator with blade that works good but bigger is better! Don't forget call before you dig its the law! Greg

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