New dozer guy looking at td8e

Rogi

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Iam in the need of a winch dozer. Seems like 90 percent are jd,but why not a IH? What is the downside of an IH? What to look at when buying one? I read some post about you can swap the engine with a small cummins? Any advice would be greatly appricated. Thanks and have a great day.
 
TD8 was a great dozer, I was working at an IH dealer when the TD8's were new. They always outshined a JD 450 in a head to head demo. The basic machine were still being built in Poland by Kamatsu.
 
Rogi The td8 C & E models have the ih dt239 engine if you could find a G model would already have the 4b cummins. The td 8 s have wet steering and are tough little tractors. Lots of them around. Have done several of the engine swaps . Not cheap requires a $ 2500 dollar kit plus engine. Not sure the kit is still available. IF you find one to look at run it till it is up to operating temp. and check the engine oil pressure. That is what happens to most of the dt239 powered ones.
 
Back in the day when they were new i was running and oil field service co. We had a J D 450 C and a J D 750 both with winches . everybody was trying to sell you a new dozer Rish Equip. Co sent me a TD 8E and a TD15 to try out . side by side the 450 plum ate the TD 8 . It did not matter if it was pushing dirt or dragging trucks the 450 was faster then the TD 8 . The TD 15 was a dog up against the 750 doing the same thing . The only thing the TD 8 had over the 450 was the winch as it had a better winch. The TD 15 had the same winch as the 750 and it was a Hyster W6 F . Even back when i worked in construction the I H dozers were not as good . That company had tried everything and back then if it was not a Cat it was nothing . The 450 C deere impressed me for power to size and the 750 is the one dozer that impressed everybody as for this area it was the first one in the patch .
 
I have notice that the Dresser and IH TD8's have held their value very well, and seem to be popular with contractors as a grading dozer. They have a good reputation over at the heavyequipmentforum.com. Most important before spending money on any machine is to make certain that all systems are up to what you would expect for the price. It is best to take a mechanic familiar with this type of machine to help evaluate it. It is worth paying an hour or two of labor charge compared to thousands in unexpected repairs later. They may be able to spot any potential problems that most would not recognize.
 
Still being built, but sold off by Komatsu. Went from IH to Dresser and now they are Dressta.
The 8"s compare more to a 650 JD. The 450 is pretty small, so I"m not sure just how a 450 would out-perform an 8. Unless you"re looking solely at travel speed and not work completed.

Unless you"re in mud or moving loose dirt a standard track 8 is better than a wide-track 650, too much power and blade and not enough traction.

But at least the decelerator is on the same side on both, unlike that stupid H70 Hyundai I spent a few days on. Same basic design as the IH/Dresser, but not as reliable, mainly electrical stuff. And there was absolutely no feedback in the steering pedals, they felt the same from the top right up until they came to a stop on full brake.

Every time it was taken out on a big job it went down and the 10,000 hour TD8G went out to do the work. Lease company didn't like it when the cost of all the repairs was deducted from the rent check that was left in it when it got dropped back off one weekend.
http://www.dresstanorthamerica.com/
 
I take calls for old IH, Hough, Galion, Dresser, and such daily. A little history: IH construction division was sold out to Dresser industries in the early 80"s. They in turn entered into a marketing and cross-branding agreement with Komatsu. That ended about 5-6 years ago. Dressta North America (Polish spelling) existed as a separate entity for a few years. They were recently acquired by the Liu Gong group. The new owners show little to no interest in "legacy" iron. In my experience they are only concerned with current production machines and are not interested in old iron and do not appear willing to help. The remainder of IH/Hough/Dresser parts are VERY, VERY picked over. Komatsu has also washed their hands of part numbers that do not specifically fit their cross branded products. All that said these are tough little tractors but parts availability is everything and that is getting worse daily.
 

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