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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

D4c or D4c XL Series II

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Stathamj

01-29-2014 00:58:07
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I'm going to go look at two dozers this weekend. I'll try and tell you what I know about them and get your opinions and thoughts on them.

The first one is a '89 or '90 Series II. It's a 78 HP, Lever Steer, It belongs to the guy that did my dozer work on my property back in Aug. It's his backup machine. It has a new undercarriage and recent paint. It also has a winch. The Price is $25K.

The second one is a '91 D4c XL Series II. It's a 80 HP, Pedal Steer. It has a new undercarriage and new paint. THere isn't a ripper or winch on this one. But, it does have Aux Hyd on the rear of the machine. The Price is $20K.

I don't know much about them other than the above. The XL is being sold as he doesn't like Pedal steer. Because he has bad knees and wants a lever steer. The other is being sold because he said he didn't use it much after being rebuit. Because he uses his D6 now.

I assume, the D4c XL means it has longer than normal tracks.

Since, I've never really operated a dozer in 23 years and it was a cable dozer at that. I figure I can get used to either one as far as lever or pedal. Since, I have timberland I thought the winch would be better than a ripper. But, the one has neither. I'm not sure about a ripper since I'm in timberland and I'm not sure the winch is worth $5K more.

So, give me your thoughts on the pair and let me know if my info is incorrect or things to watch out for these particular models years, series & etc....

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jm.

01-29-2014 18:26:21
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 Re: D4c or D4c XL Series II in reply to Stathamj, 01-29-2014 00:58:07  
As you describe them they are both RETAIL price , certainly not auction priced but then at auction you never know what you are getting. I have owned both and prefer the foot steer but no big deal since you are not already used to either.



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GarrettFields

01-29-2014 05:21:22
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 Re: D4c or D4c XL Series II in reply to Stathamj, 01-29-2014 00:58:07  
If you are going to need a winch, you better get the one that already has it. I think you would be very hard pressed to put a winch on the 20k unit for 5k. I say this because I fell into a deal on a dozer identical to mine, with a shot UC. The parts dozer had a winch that I have no use for so I stopped by Iron Peddlers on the way home to see if they would be interested. Guy hopped on the trailer put it in free wheel, pulled some cable out, made sure the all the linkage/plumbing was there and offered me $3,500 on the spot. This is for a D3 size machine. So between their mark up, and the difference between a D3 and D4 I dont think 5k is out of line for a mounted/working winch.

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dpendzic

01-29-2014 12:09:12
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 Re: D4c or D4c XL Series II in reply to GarrettFields, 01-29-2014 05:21:22  
I have both pedal and lever steer Cats and absolutely love the pedal steer machines. I do quite a bit of logging clearing land and have no winch so i don't know if it's really needed.



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