I think I need a bigger crawler!

R Geiger

Well-known Member
Somehow I don't think my old MC will skid these big boys. Recon I will just have to let them grow some more! :D
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You just need an arch to get the front off the ground. It'd be slow going and you won't be hauling tree length, but it can be done. I've seen pictures of guys back int he 50's hauling white pine as big as the smaller of those 2 big ones on winter roads with 40C's. They'd put them on sleds a lot of the time.
 
Right you are! I got my MC in 1979 and have done a lot of work with it. I got 20 or 24 of these big firs and as long as I live, they will not be cut. Sure would be easy splitting tho!
 
Big trees are neat, I'll give you that. But I never understood leaving them to die and fall over when they could be put to good use. I suppose that makes me some sort of neanderthal. I'd leave a few and take a few. I see one real nice machine shop standing there!
 
If your toy won't move those twigs, you got
problems. I have a few over her that take three
people to go around. Once past a certain size lose
value because all the old large log saw mills have
pretty much closed down and internal rot.
Catch you later!
 
Bret, Got lots of cleared room for a new shop if I needed one. Mills around here are not set up anymore to take big logs. I like to look at them. They are healthy at this time, crowns look good so have no plans to harvest them. Plenty of maple and alder if I need fire wood. I have replanted a lot of trees on my property and many of them are saw log size now. Think I will let them suck up all the carbon they can!! Oh, don't get me wrong I do support logging and the use of timber products.
 
I admire the big trees too, thinking about how long it took for them to mature. Not sure what the typical life span is of most around here, I did have to harvest a bunch of 30 + year old elm which I had hoped to see mature, dutch elm disease has no mercy. I get a lot of storm damage as of late, funny how they are fine for years, then weather events just take a toll on them. I've got a giant oak, would take 3 or maybe 4 people to gather around it and touch hands, found another even larger way in the back over the line, funny how only 2 of these old trees have made it this far, not sure what species that other one is, huge and a giant canopy.
 
Yeah and the wife drug me off to look at another
boat tonite. I"m tellin" ya" "Life is Ruff".
Got the two 22"s and I think I will be doing an
engine swap into the one with the winch and 2 way
blade. Currently the job is keeping me away until
about 4 PM. In January the hours change and I get
home by 1 PM. That will be mid January and too cold
to play too long outside.
That takes me into. . . What? March?
 
(quoted from post at 21:23:09 11/14/13) I admire the big trees too, thinking about how long it took for them to mature. Not sure what the typical life span is of most around here, I did have to harvest a bunch of 30 + year old elm which I had hoped to see mature, dutch elm disease has no mercy. I get a lot of storm damage as of late, funny how they are fine for years, then weather events just take a toll on them. I've got a giant oak, would take 3 or maybe 4 people to gather around it and touch hands, found another even larger way in the back over the line, funny how only 2 of these old trees have made it this far, not sure what species that other one is, huge and a giant canopy.

It's too bad we don't hold old humans in the same reverence we hold old trees.
 
It was old humans that taught me to appreciate old trees and not to cut them all down! But you are right, society as a whole treats older folks pretty poorly.
 
Hi Bret! I have a few acres with no human neighbors
on 4 sides. Federal land is on two sides and a
timber company on the other two sides. Someday
fairly soon, I may desire to sell this. Old growth
forest sells better than moon scape harvested trees.
 
It doesn't have to be a clear cut. Take the worst first, otherwise it's just gonna fall over.

Call me oversensitive to the issue, but it was people with the same ideas that have killed off logging and mining in my state and killed off a lot of families doing it. That's part of why we have such huge numbers on welfare in it's various forms. Tress are renewable, young ones grow. You can have a sustainable harvest over your lifetime and your kids and grand kids too. But a lot of people up here are so wrapped up in what they see from the window of the BMW that they can't abide a tree being cut. They refer to 75 year old trees as "old growth". People are pretty shallow and not too bright.
 
The attitude about logging is the same here in Oregon with the same results. A lot of small town mills are gone or should say almost all are gone and the jobs with them. Nothing ever stays the same, but my small spot of big trees will live as long as I do. If they fall over then they will be cut up and used. I measured the bigger one today and it is 4 3/4 feet DBH. Have several that are bigger but they are harder to get to to measure. They are what I call old growth. Probably 300 years or so old.
 
That might have been an option a few years ago.
Most of these are now large enough to be fire
wood.
The price I may be looking for is much higher than
trees would bring.
i was walking through the Denver airport a few
years ago behind two guys. One was talking about
buying some land on the west coast. Land with no
neighbors to most folks is unheard of. Now if I
advertise this from Denver to San Diego, up
through LA and "frisco and up to Seattle, then I
might get the two people I am in search of.
God be willing that when the time comes they will
come.
California and Washington state hasve sprawl.
Oregon does not share the same vision. Hence the
reason I can live under 20 miles from the center
of down town Portland and have no neighbors.
Thank you God!
 
I get the idea. I'm just saying that the anti-logging sentiment seems very short sighted to me, not necessarily in the case presented, but overall. There are 6 million acres here in NY that are effectively finished as far as every cutting logs off them ever again. 6 million acres could employ a lot of people.
 
The only good thing about locking up those 6 million acres is that they will be there in the future when attitudes might change. At least it is not being covered in houses. It has been real enjoyable to watch trees I planted 40 years ago grow and become big enough for saw logs.
 
(quoted from post at 09:12:19 11/17/13) The only good thing about locking up those 6 million acres is that they will be there in the future when attitudes might change. At least it is not being covered in houses. It has been real enjoyable to watch trees I planted 40 years ago grow and become big enough for saw logs.

You misunderstand, there is no way that acreage can be logged- ever. That's what "Forever Wild" means here, it can never, ever be touched. 95% of it will never see another human foot print. They've even bared float planes form landing on the lakes now. It never would have been covered with houses no matter what because there's nothing here to support anyone living here in the first place since logging is gone. BTW- the state taxes it's citizens to pay the land taxes on the land the state owns within the Park. Cool huh?
 

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