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Re: Huge John Deere Grader

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08-22-2013 15:36:12

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Fuel is relatively inexpensive compared to the price of a new machine. If the county officials knew what they were doing, they should have specified a lower fuel consumption in their bid specs. That would have shut out the fuel hogs and probably gotten them a machine with a Cummins that put out more HP and used less fuel than the JD. Too many counties buy machines based on favoritism rather than hard facts.

My nephew was amazed after he bought my brother's Versatile tractor with a Cummins engine; it uses a third less fuel while producing more HP.

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08-22-2013 16:34:25

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 Re: Huge John Deere Grader in reply to Dick2, 08-22-2013 15:36:12  
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I don't say this lightly...There are more scams at this level of politics than we can imagine. Consider....all the higher level of greed and theft we read about in government..both parties..but hardly ever at the state county and township levels. Why? Kickbacks from machinery and quarry (the places that provide the road materials)...So easy to conceal because we are such a trusting constituency. Consider...couple days before the last township election I talked in length with the newly elected township trustee..the guy that runs the grader..He had nothing good to say about his opponent. For that matter neither did the commissioner for this part of the county. The last township officers cost the people thousands of dollars laying down improper road materials and ignoring the complaints from those with ruined tires and in some cases engine components where large pieces of rock were tossed into the motor compartment. The new trustee and I agreed on how a road should be conditioned...before laying new rock..usually inch and a quarter graded and filled the pot holes and then layed in the new rock which of course you graded down into a crown and pack..Never happened..The new trustee told me this large jd grader was way big for the job..he is still driving it..The new trustee told me the last one had started making only one pass down the roads...So now he is too..

I'm tellin ya..something smells rotten and I'd put money it is more common around the country than what you might think...

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08-23-2013 03:48:36

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 Re: Huge John Deere Grader in reply to Red1, 08-22-2013 16:34:25  
I sold equipment to all levels of government for years. I found corruption at all levels in some form or other. After the Nixon affair, things were more black & white for awhile - they would not even let you buy them lunch or they would flat out tell you that if you paid them so much you would get the bid! That only lasted a few years then it was back to the same old way.

There were some places that were run on the straight and narrow. When I worked for ADOT, we could accept a cap from a vendor; we could go to lunch with them but not out to dinner.

Some guys tried to influence the specs that I wrote but I told them that was the door where they came in. The most obvious was the Cat saleman and a female salesperson who tried to interest me in her own type of corruption - didn't work on me!

I slept well and never had to worry about going to jail.

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