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Crawlers, Dozers, Loaders & Backhoes Discussion Forum

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LOU from Wi.

10-31-2012 20:22:35
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Rick. HOW DO YOU KNOW THE REPAIR CONDITIONS WOULD COST THOUSANDS?????Horse hockey. Most repairs can be made with a little mechanical ability. That alone NEGATES your claim to thousands to repair. We did our own from frame up to complete repairs. Never was Thousands involved. That we can prove. In todays Machinery, Replacement parts made in Japan,China are cheaper to buy,even are used in new name brand Machines.Only difference is whether you buy them from a dealer(at a considerable mark up) or off the internet thru a cheaper distributor.
LOU

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Old loader

10-31-2012 22:56:18
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 10-31-2012 20:22:35  
I don't think anyone is purposely trying to come down on the poster. I think we would rather see him keep his money and look for something a little better than find out it will cost thousands to put in working condition or isn't worth fixing. Maybe it would bring $1500 in scrap. Is that before or after he puts more money in it? How much for trucking to pick it up, take it home and then decide it needs to go to the scrap yard. Spending say $500 to get your $1500 back results in a $500 loss.

OK Lou, since YOU brought it up, prove it. Every nickle and not some crazy amount to change the subject. Initial cost plus everything to restore it and number of hours spent.

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LOU from Wi.

10-31-2012 23:43:31
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Old loader, 10-31-2012 22:56:18  
Forgot the amount of time, Free time,that means any spare time I had, since I'm retired.

Oh and by the way why give advice on something that was not ask for by the original poster? Does that make you feel important??? What appears to me seems as though an older member of your family wouldn't be worth putting money and time to be made usable again.
Where did he say he's making a special trip out there, he might have relatives he's visiting. Seems you make alot of "ASSUMPTIONS" which I don't have to tell you about what they say about assuming? Now the prices I gave you were rounded up to the nearest dollar.
LOU

P.S. When can I expect you out to look at the reciepts??

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LOU from Wi.

10-31-2012 23:34:55
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Old loader, 10-31-2012 22:56:18  
Will be glad to give you the receiepts when you come to my home to look at em. Other wise take my word for it.The machine is valued at $8500.00 according to my insurance adjuster,cost 1100.00 to buy the dozer, 75.00 to have it delivered 1 mileaway from my home. bills totalling parts which includes bull gear, seals,pins, bushings, track plates,$40.00 for pump seals, $65.00 for oil,$30.00 for paint,$7.00 welding rod.All total $1500.00.Now are you satisfied???
LOU

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Old loader

11-01-2012 20:02:45
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 10-31-2012 23:34:55  
No. Back when you did the work you were very reluctant to say how much you spent and all of a sudden you say only $1500. I thought you spent over $300 just replacing hydraulic hoses. I don't think anyone would believe you only spent $1500.



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LOU from Wi.

11-01-2012 21:59:06
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Old loader, 11-01-2012 20:02:45  
Why the double name of old loader,when in fact you are stick welder,Dave??? Ashamed of posting your real handle,so everyone knows who you are?? Still trying to get in the back door to find out what we paid?? Also No we aren't still buying the tracks off of CH like you so vehemently tryed to get us to do. Stick with welding, it takes all your left over brain cells to compete against the other women employees in your workplace. NOW EVERYONE KNOWS WHO YOU ARE DAVE.
LOU

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Old loader

11-01-2012 22:24:32
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 11-01-2012 21:59:06  
"Still trying to get in the back door to find out what we paid??"

Still ashamed to say how much it actually cost? I never said you should buy CH's tracks, it was just an option that you didn't even want to look at. Everyone knows who you are too, a stubborn guy who doesn't like to admit a project was way more than he expected and when questioned about it, gets on the defensive and tries to change the subject. Try being honest and you'll get more respect. The only way your Oliver could have an $8500 value would be if you showed the insurance adjuster a stack of receipts totaling a lot more than $1500. If you, or anyone else, could spend only $1500 to have a restored crawler and sell it for a $7000 profit, I'd think you'd be buying up every old crawler in the land cause you'd make a fortune. Why the insults? I actually tried to help you with some aspects of your restoration. Telling others to go ahead and not stating true costs and/or hours of labor isn't helping anyone.

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LOU from Wi.

11-01-2012 23:03:53
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Old loader, 11-01-2012 22:24:32  
Dave, It's really no concern of "YOURS" of what it really cost us, it didn't come out of your pocket.Your the one who's ashamed, can't even admit your own name so people can tell who's full of it.Guy's who are buying crawlers and who are paying for it is not my concern.I'm not as inquisitive (to say politely) as you are. Are you writing a book on costs of old crawler repairs?
Every dozer is different (no two have the same abuse or problems. Look at yours, you bought a big one and it required new tracks pins and bushings. If you are such an expert on these dozers and crawlers, how come you bought a lemon?? Requiring all this work. Now that we really know it's you, HERE IS THE TRUE PRICE AS I STATED BEFORE $248,000,00 with out taxes.Oh and by the way I rescind my offer for "YOU" to come to my place and look at the receipts, any one else is welcome.Now maybe you can get some sleep,now that you know what it cost to repair my dozer,I know it kept you up nights just worrying about my finances. You can treat ignorance, but you can't fix stupid.That saying fits you to a t.

The original poster never stated anything about costs of repairing his dozer,maybe you should go back to high school and take remedial reading and comprehension classes,cause you sure can't do either one.

As for rebuilding older crawlers, Why?? We only use one and we got the best of the bunch for Only $248,000,00 with out taxes.We do have other things that we have uses for OUR money,instead of trying to haggle with every buying customer on reselling dozers, thats what dealers are for.We're just a proud owner, that will never disclose to "YOU" on what it cost,no matter with how many False names you try to sneak in.
GET A LIFE DAVEY BOY, and grow up.
LOU

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LOU from Wi.

11-01-2012 21:01:59
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Old loader, 11-01-2012 20:02:45  
Your talking about the SSteel lines on the I.H.706.Ruber hoses were usable on crawler. The suction hose on the crawler 1-1/4 was usable. Still if you are in doubt. come on over and gander at the receipts. Like I said, I'll be happy to show you all the expenses on the crawler, and then everyone will know you are a giant Nib chit of unproportionate size. what i say, I can back up. You keep forgetting the 706 venture where we did spend some money on repair parts. Get it right before you stumble over your man unit. LOU.

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Old loader

11-01-2012 22:32:31
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 11-01-2012 21:01:59  
I must be on to something to be getting all the insults! Just typing it on here doesn't back anything up. I stand by what I said earlier. I'd rather have someone keep their money than buy an old crawler and find out it needs a a lot more than they ever expected. In most cases an old crawler is a money pit. Ask anyone.



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Bret4207

11-01-2012 04:26:53
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 10-31-2012 23:34:55  
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Lou, didn't you do a pictorial of all the work you did on that thing? I seem to remember you buying a lot of steel and doing a lot of cutting and welding.

As far as this machine goes, I see nothing wring in warning a guy that crawlers are very often money pits. I'll never get my investment back out of my JD 1010. I've got about $4K tied up in a machine that might bring $3500.00 and the tracks are still shot and the hoses still need replacing. I think all people are doing is saying- be careful.

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LOU from Wi.

11-01-2012 12:11:45
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Bret4207, 11-01-2012 04:26:53  
Bret"Kept a running photo (disk)layout for our benefit. Now What steel that you think We bought to make needed repairs? The only steel we bought was for the Tow bar, and most of that we had out back in the shed, bought to repair the I.H.706.Small pieces we had underneath the work bench. I seen where the gentleman bought the unit and when he looked at it, wasn't near as bad (need for his usage) and will be brought back again. GOOD FOR HIM.I'M still waiting for the fellow to come look at our receipts. Lots of dis=believers on here.If he shows up, that would make him a nosy nib chit.lol. I will State again for the record, hadn't it been for Jde Marris, we would have been up the creek for valued information. Jde has the expert advice plus he backs up with information he supplies. on questions he answers. Any way folks, I'm happy for the fellow who ignored the RUN DON'T WALK AWAY SYNDROME.MHO.inclosed LOU.

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Bret4207

11-02-2012 04:32:45
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 Re: help me identify in reply to LOU from Wi., 11-01-2012 12:11:45  
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Lou, as I recall you bought new pads and cut them down to fit, you also had to weld up a lot of stuff, didn't you have to do a lot of work to your rails, like rebuild them with weld? I'll see if I can find the posts. I know I thought it was very interesting.



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LOU from Wi.

11-02-2012 11:09:00
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 Re: help me identify in reply to Bret4207, 11-02-2012 04:32:45  
Bret" You are correct about the pads, and loader arm welding plus the welding up of rail nuts that hold em together.Yep every pad was cut and welded the holes closed, then we templated the old shoe and traced the pattern to te new shoe,drilled new holes feathered out for the bolts so the bolts could rest flat against the shoe.Otherwise no additional welding was requires. Lots of hours in dis-assembling, cleaning washing and painting and re- adssembling.All this information (pix)and all is on the Archives. What got to me was the stupidity of Dave asking what we had in cost to repair . He states that if I disclosed what we paid out in parts that would help someone else decide whether to undertake such a venture,and see if it would be worth their while. He doesn't get the fact that ALL Equiptment has different problems and no two are identical in nature, PLUS THe fact It's none of his business what we spent.The archives are available to see what we done to rebuild the O.C.46 which by the way was WELLORTH THE TIME SPENT AS WELL AS THE FUNDS > LOU.

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