210 B-H-- adjustment of loader?

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 14, 2018

Calling on the experts; where is the adjustment made for this setup as pictured? I have a service manual, but says to plug into the pipe tapped hole with gauge. Did that (belly of valve right side) and got no reading. Manual mentions using shim to raise or lower pressure in the main relief valve. Ok behind the large hex head in this picture? Doesn't call out shim thicknesses? Manual also says to use the t-fitting for gauging - it doesn't have one. ? Much thanks.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 14, 2018

Btw, all I saw behind this nut was a large slotted screw. Looking at the service manual, am I missing parts?

Stephen Newell · Aug 14, 2018

Do you know the model number of the loader you have? My 210BH has a #21 loader.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 15, 2018

Oddly the model number is missing from the tag, but the serial number is there 4032648.

mEl · Aug 15, 2018

(reply to post at 19:05:28 08/14/18)

You will read very little pressure on your gauge till you work the system against relief, roll the bucket clear back and hold till the engine works then the working pressure should be there. all you would read otherwise is system back pressure.

DKase · Aug 15, 2018

Most loader valves I have worked on have adjustable relief valves. If you get a gauge in there and get a good reading try tightening the screw behind the plug and see if the pressure goes up. If not loosen the screw and see if it goes down. If it does and you cannot get as high as you would like with warm oil the pump might be weak.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 15, 2018

Thanks for your tips. Throwing me off, is that little regarding the two hydraulic systems on this old work horse corresponds with
the service manual. Even the flow control for the hoe isn't where the book says it is, but is buried down by the lower mount pin
amidst steel lines and hoses. Doesn't help that someone replaced a hose from it and has the adjustment screw turned to the bottom.
So it goes eh? Thanks again for the replys.

Stephen Newell · Aug 15, 2018

This is what the #21 loader looks like.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 15, 2018

Very nice. I bought mine only to put it to work. Not sure your 21 is the same loader. I have to take a walk into the woods and down the hill
tomorrow to try and compare. Might be easier if any of those exterior markings were still intact.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 16, 2018

Off and on again thunderstorms today, but I wanted to get a comparison shot. Not very pretty. Used hard and put away wet by previous owner(s), but I got high hopes it will get the job done.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 16, 2018

Looks like the same loader to me (Model 21). Thanks for the pic. And again, thanks to all for the input.

Stephen Newell · Aug 17, 2018

Tomorrow I will look at the control mechanism and see if there is any adjustments. I don't think there are any. Anyway on you're tractor what does this do?

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 17, 2018

The piece is just a chrome decoration. No function other than eye appeal.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 17, 2018

It shows on Steve Newell's photo too. It's just that I have the hood off maybe.

Stephen Newell · Aug 18, 2018

Yea, I thought that was part of the front loader instead of the hood.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 18, 2018

Should've set it off to the side, but one little old man working alone .. with little fear of scratching the paint.

Stephen Newell · Aug 19, 2018

I looked at the control mechanism on my loader and there appears to be some adjustments on the back side of where the levers are. I know you have been looking but I can find any literature on the unit. Probably a hydraulic mechanic would know. I have trouble with my loader, it will lift easy and smooth but you go to lower it and it drops like a rock. You have to be real easy with the control lever to prevent dropping the load.

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 19, 2018

I would think that would be a flow control adjustment but, once again, I have yet to try to turn the screw as was suggested to increase pressure to mine, and it doesn't have a flow control like my backhoe has on it. Sorry, I'm no help .... yet(?).

Stephen Newell · Aug 20, 2018

I don't know if this helps you any but I think I found a parts book for the loader. https://www.ebay.com/itm/J-I-CASE-UTILITY-LOADER-FOR-210B-310-310B-WHEEL-TRACTORS-PARTS-CATALOG-MANUAL/390654999787?epid=1731849658&hash=item5af4da3ceb:g:I3UAAMXQhpdR2NbY:sc:USPSFirstClass!75161!US!-1

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 20, 2018

I have the parts manual for 200-B, purchased from "Yesterday's Tractor Co.", but no it doesn't cover loaders. All information is good, I'll probably check on that manual. Thanks again.

Stephen Newell · Aug 20, 2018

I found another manual which covers the tractor too. https://www.repairmanual.com/product/case-210b-310-530-factory-service-manual-js-ca-s-210b-310-plus/

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 21, 2018

Thanks Steve. The first thing I bought for this old tractor was this shop service manual (except I paid full price!). It's a bit confusing at times due to jumping around with model information in various places. And, as stated, some information needed for my 210-B-H-- isn't
included. Such as location for adjustments to the loader and backhoe! A person would think in a shop 'service manual' ....

rferry.artspan.com · Aug 22, 2018

Not sure anything on this 210 B-H-- is by the service manual. Plugged in again at the pipe fitting. Took it to bucket tilt stop position - no reading. Raised bucket to stop position and held it - no reading. Tried turning screw behind large hex nut (both directions). No luck, need a larger tipped screwdriver, but it felt to be bottomed out. Want to do right by this old horse, but can only hope that even the fluid types called for are correct. Service manual says hydraulic reservoir (with loader) is in the uprights of the loader. And that the filter is either front mounted, or off the lever valve body. Nope and nope. Filter is mounted on right side above a reservoir (with no external access), and the hydraulic fluid (and location of breather port) is the gear box fluid. I see only one flow control and adjustment for the entire hoe. I'm beginning to think I have a prototpe or experimental model. My experience heretofore, was a 1965 or so, Case Loader/Backhoe which I believe to be about the same, ie., horses, etc., and a 580 CK. I was expecting the hydraulics on this one, as on those, to be able to raise all four tires. Am I expecting too much outta this old girl?

Stephen Newell · Aug 22, 2018

Look at the opposite side of the control mechanism. There is a nut that takes a special wrench similar to what you use on an angle grinder. I think that is where the adjustment is.

I think you should re-start this thread, it's getting difficult to find.

BarryfromIA · Aug 23, 2018

It appears to me that your loader is like mine, with single acting cylinders therefore only lifting and float and no down pressure on the lift arms.

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