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Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help

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Ashjohnson42

11-14-2017 14:52:11




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I am needing help with approximate year of this steam tractor if possible. Its an old family photo and i am hoping to identify who these relatives are with clues. I know part of my family on this side had a saw mill and some of them were wheat farmers. The man on the right is wearing a white apron. Does that give any clues as to what kind of work he was doing? Saw mill? And the man above wheel is holding a rope? Any help is greatly appreciated. I dont know anything about this kind of equipment. I originally thought this was my three times great grandparents holding their baby twins, Alexander and Emelia, but they were not born until 1852. So the date wouldn't add up as apparently Case didn't sell their tractors til about 1912, but I could be wrong.

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Ashjohnson42

11-29-2017 16:11:17




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Thank you!
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L.Fure

11-29-2017 15:10:41




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
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I'm happy that you were able to find information about your family history.



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Ashjohnson42

11-29-2017 12:53:32




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Link to book pages that was sent to me:
http://www.ourroots.ca/page.aspx?id=759102&qryID=ed83464b-99c6-4998-bfb7-4c1137187bc1&qryID=0fc2e000-8d6c-4610-af50-a5e5a726e5e8



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Ashjohnson42

11-29-2017 12:46:30




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
A relative contacted me and gave me the information written in a book about the history of the Saskatchewan area and it talks about my great grandfather Loyed and his two brothers, Ed and Henry working to pay for the tractor in Saskatchewan. They worked for their uncle and also threshing wheat for nearby farms. It was sold first to the ag museum in Saskatchewan and then later to the Manitoba museum when they ran out of storage room for it. I have also heard back from both museums and the Case 110 currently at the Manitoba ag museum is the same one. They said they run it every year at the Thresherman's reuniun so we are planning a family trip to come see it this summer.

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Ashjohnson42

11-19-2017 17:57:04




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Someone shared my photo with another Case forum and had a reply saying that there are Hoff's in Redvers, Saskatchewan, Canada that had a 110 just like this with the extension rims and that it is now at the Manitoba ag museum. I called up some Hoff's in Redvers and they did turn out to be my relatives! My great grandpa's brother Edward Hoff and william Hoff are the main ones that had the wheat threshing farm. So the mystery may be solved. I'm calling the museum tomorrow. My great grandfather did live with them for a little while in Canada around 1916 because he is on a census there living with his brothers there in 1916. His mother passed away when he was just 14. His dad may have not had the sawmill any longer at that point.

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L.Fure

11-18-2017 17:20:11




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
The large wooden tender on the back of the tractor makes me believe that this was a straw burner. Steamers used in large wheat fields were a long way from the main fuels used in steam engines, like coal or wood, so they burned straw. I've seen Case literature that offered special grates for the firebox for using straw as a fuel. I've never seen a steamer that used straw, but I'd think the firemen would have fork straw in the firebox pretty steady to keep a good head of steam in the boiler.

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Ashjohnson42

11-18-2017 16:05:01




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That is interesting. Three of my great grandfather's brothers served in WWI. So it could very well be the brothers. Around 1910 until sometime before 1920, my great great grandfather, their dad, had a sawmill in Wascott, Wisconsin. Two of those brothers that served in WWI are listed as engineers on steam engine in the census under their dad, Suverign, who is listed as a sawyer on a saw mill on his own account in 1910 so they probably came back to the sawmill after the war to work.

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L.Fure

11-17-2017 04:31:27




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This photo might have been taken after WWI. The guy laying on the roof of the cab is wearing a hat that was worn by the doughboys sent to Europe during the war. My grandfather and great uncle were stationed in France during that time. They were part of the ambulance corps. My great uncle had a thresher in northern Wisconsin after the war. He was from the Stetsonville area.

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L.Fure

11-17-2017 04:16:09




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I was thinking the person in the apron was the cook. Some threshers would have their own crews, and a chuck wagon to feed the crew. Other areas relied on neighbors to supply the laborers and the wives would do the cooking..



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Chuck Machinist

11-16-2017 02:10:53




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Is that a wheel chock hanging off the coal/wood box? CM



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Ashjohnson42

11-14-2017 18:16:56




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
According to the 1910 Wascott, Douglas, Wisconsin census, Severin's info below (my gr gr grandfather)
Occupation: Sawyer

Industry: Saw Mill

Employer, Employee or Other: Own Account



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Ashjohnson42

11-14-2017 18:09:39




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Your very welcome! Glad you enjoyed seeing it. Yes, my great grandfather's dad had a sawmill in Wisconsin. Later on, some of the family went to Saskatchewan to be wheat farmers. If I'm wrong, and it isn't my great grandfather up there, then it could possibly be some of the siblings that went to Canada.



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Don Rudolph

11-14-2017 17:58:34




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
What a great family photo! Thanks for posting it here. The 110 Case steamers were built in the early 1900's until about 1913, if I remember correctly. Are you certain the picture was taken in Wisconsin? That machine would be more likely associated with Sask. Canada and the large prairies, or possibly a very large sawmill operation. As far as the white apron is concerned, no working man would wear a white apron, except perhaps a butcher.

Please let us know what you find out with your research. Don

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Ashjohnson42

11-14-2017 17:24:22




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Thank you for the information. This was taken in Wisconsin. I'm glad you are enjoying the photo. Please feel free to share it. My great grandfather , Loyed Hoff, was the son of Norwegians and his dad, Severin, owned a saw mill in Wisconsin and some of the kids went to Saskatchewan Canada to be wheat farmers later on. I'm really amazed at how big this equipment is. Looking closer at the picture, the man by the hose or rope actually looks very similar to my great grandfather Loyed born in 1899. On the back of the photo it says "Elemer Roessel sent this to me". I have looked in old census records tonight on ancestry.com and one of my great grandfather's sisters married a Raynold Elemer Roessel, a German man. So I'm thinking it's probably my gr grandfather up there and maybe a sibling who also had twins but I have yet to find anyone else who had twins. Elemer lived in the home with the rest of them and I'm sure worked on the farm with them.

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oldproudvet

11-14-2017 16:58:54




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
I believe this is a 110, you can tell by the cab. This should go the steam boys w/one of the Case clubs. There were several 110s @ Albert City this summer. I know Jered Ruble from Forest City IA, he had 2 110s there for starters. The fellows that are repoping the 150 hp engine were there, and are featured in the Video Classic Tractor Fever made at the show, I think they were an Anderson? Really neat picture. What part of the country was this taken in? Must be the midwest.......

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Ken Christopherson

11-15-2017 05:44:51




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to oldproudvet, 11-14-2017 16:58:54  
Kory Anderson, to be exact.... Check out the link below for the story on the 150. I have been following Anderson Industries on Facebook - they post lots of photos and videos of the machining processes for the 150. VERY BIG pieces that they are working with. Truly will be a priceless machine - although the value I am sure would be north of $1 million....

Do a search for Anderson Industries LLC on Facebook to see their updates.

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FastFarmall

11-15-2017 07:03:01




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ken Christopherson, 11-15-2017 05:44:51  
I go to Andover about every other year, it's amazing what Kevin and Kory can do.



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C. Amick

11-14-2017 16:57:43




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Is that a block of wood with a hole in it for the rope to slide through?



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bradley martin

11-14-2017 15:47:12




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
Case began selling steam tractors long before 1912, around 1870 if I remember correctly.



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centash

11-14-2017 15:37:04




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
He is probably holding a hose of some sort. Ben



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tractorguy2

11-14-2017 15:17:23




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 Re: Case steam tractor- old family photo- please help in reply to Ashjohnson42, 11-14-2017 14:52:11  
I'm pretty sure the steam engine is 110 hp.



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