Antique Case Combine Engine

An acquaintance of mine has a CE engine that says came off a model Q combine. The combine was scrapped several years ago but he thinks it was the same as a model P. He said he had posted on the combine forum in the past nut no one seems to know anything about the model Q. Do any of you oldtimers know anything?
 
I have a sales brochure dated 1938.
Model CE motor was used. Had 4 straw-walkers, a 32" cylinder, 65 bu tank and a 16' head with an optional 12 or 20' header.
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Thank you; I learned something new about Case combines. You should email that to either "Old Abe's News" or the "Heritage Eagle."
 
I did some scrounging also. Been awhile since I've looked at the old combine lit and
wanted to sort a few things out in my mind.

Case was advertising the P, H, B and BB before the Q came out.
I thought maybe the Q was just an updated P with the CE engine instead of the cross-motor, but
the cylinder in the P is only 24" wide. The Q is 32" so it's a new design and much larger machine.

The Motor-Lift combine is the model C. I presume it's an updated H or B as it had the
same 22" cylinder and used the Waukesha motor.

The model K was a 32" machine like the Q but an entirely new machine.
The first with a standard rub bar cylinder and auger type head.

The A-6 was also introduced about this time, not to be confused with the original
model A from the late 1920s.

I hope this helps anyone who's interested. I have better info somewhere but I'd have to dig for it.
Here's a picture of my Model C Motor-Lift combine.
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The P Series Parts Book says that this engine was used beginning with serial number 304363 this is for the 1930 season
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This is a photo taken in 1929 of P series at the factory with a AE engine the other photos are of the CE engine
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Correction on the above photo it is a B Series with a bagging platform and likely the waukesha engine, here is another view in transport mode
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I would like to add Straw Boss that the Q had a rasp bar cylinder too. At least ours did. It had two small diameter spiked drums in front of a regular rasp bar cylinder. I have the serial number plate off ours and I think tomorrow I will try to find it. I posted a pic of the engine Tubacase is talking about at the top.
 
The sales brochure I have goes into detail at length about the spiked cylinder, the teeth, the
construction and has pictures to illustrate.

They make no mention or a rub bar type cylinder anywhere in the options listed except for
one small paragraph which says...."The special concaves and other parts required for combining peas, beans, clover, alfalfa, etc., are readily inserted in place of the regular parts. Full instructions are given for the installation of all special parts. Any man can operate a Case combine."

This leads me to believe a rub bar cylinder and concaves could be installed but wasn't standard equipment. But I'm just surmising. I really have no real knowledge of these old machines other than what the lit says.

It's too bad the Q mentioned has been scrapped. Kind of a rare bird to begin with and to have a rub bar cylinder might make it even more so. I have an H combine here (rough) and I've seen a B in N.Dak. and quite a few Ps from Kansas to Canada but I've never seen a Q in person. Case also made quite a few Hillside combines during this time including the model W but we're not likely to see one out here on the Plains. Maybe Washington state?
 
This Parts Book is on eBay right now.
I don't know what a Model Q Rosario Special is.
Maybe someone can shine a light on this one as well?
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We had kind robbed some iron off the combine over the years. Dad took the grain tank off back in the 80s and put it into our barn to hold feed. It was nothing more then yard art and since the scrap guy was cleaning up we told him to take the combine but I made them torch off the serial number plate. I know were there is a Model B that is complete. I might make a run at it when the owners decide to clean up the place.
 

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