Case 460 pull-type combine

Straw Boss

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Someone posted a nice picture on Tractor Talk.
Got me to wondering why Case didn't make a 1660 pull-type.
A 1030 or 1200 would have handled it just fine.

No demand? Would it have cut into SP sales?
Not enough R & D money?
By the 1980s, didn't most brands make a pull-type out of their biggest SP machines?

Straight heads can only get so big on a pull-type and corn heads are not practical but
a smaller pickup head for the big wheat country from the Dakotas on up through Canada would
have been ideal sales territory for big capacity machines where not a lot of corn or straight
cutting is done. Fun to think about what could have been. Any thoughts?
 
My understanding Brad is they made a PT "1060" that would have competed with the 914 IHC. And yes, I saw it in your pictures you posted once as Tom mentioned

Brad, do you have a "460"?

Dan
 
I'm going to wager the reason why is because the market wasn't there in the 60s. Take a look at the competition. Correct me if I am wrong but a 460 is a PT version of the 960? If that is correct then capacity should be between a 65 and 96 probably closer to the 96. The JD 96 was their most popular PT of the 60s. They didn't make a PT out of their biggest combine the 105 until 1967 and then it was only on the market for a few years before being replaced by the more advanced but slightly smaller 6601 which was JD's biggest PT until the late 70s. IH's biggest PT was the 150 until the 402 came out in 1966 which was similar in size to the 96. So I don't think the market was in the 60s for a mega pull type combine especially for Case. They might have had a bigger PT if they had kept on making combines in the 70s. IH eventually made a PT out of their biggest combine the 1480 and later 1680. JD's biggest PT was the 9501.
 
Would like to see those pics of any concept Case combines... please post whatever you have for me please!!! Thank you Case Farm Kid
 
No, the 400/460 were a 600/660 combine body, they have a straw rack and was aprox 60hp 4 cylinders engines , 700/900/960 all have straw walkers and have a 6 cylinder that was 70 hp until 1969 and 70 when they sped up the engine to 85hp, all of these machines use the same headers but are far different machines in capacity
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I didn't know that. I would have thought they would have used one of the walker combines for their PT. Capacity would be more in line of the 55/65. JD ceased production of the 65 in 1966 due to lack of sales so yes Case should have had a bigger PT or at least a version of the 960.
 
Dan, I do not have a 460. Don't know if I've ever seen more than four of them in real life. Two were sitting outside and rusted through everywhere.

The other two I saw were on top of a scrap heap at the local salvage yard. They looked like brand new. Even the Eagle decals on the back hoods were a rich desert sunset color with no fading. I went inside and asked about them. Seems a farmer in north Dakota had them stored inside all these years and called them up and said nobody's going to want these combines. Come get them for scrap. The only thing they saved were the tires. I asked why they didn't call me as you know I would have wanted them. No answer....

I WILL get to your place one of these days Dan and I will bring those photos with me. It's obvious Case was working on a big pull-type as the photos show but I'm just surprised they didn't release a 1660 pull the same time they released the SP.
 
My Case 400 pto machine is a one year combine....built only in 65.
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I got to hook on too a 460, and thresh some 85 bushel spring wheat this summer,there was 9 other cabless [old]combine there too, all brands,it didn't take long to combine 50 acres! It had a 10 foot straight cut and i was the fastest combine there, but the 403, and C2 Gleaner,super 92 Massey etc, all had 13 and 14 foot headers, but i had the tractor in the 1st gear, a low torque, a Super MTA .A fun day!
 
Yes, i do,i have two, one will be my xmas card, but don't have a i-phone to put it on the forum, and really don't know how to do it.
 

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