Case 411

dts2014 · Jul 15, 2016

I just got a case 411 and the guy we traded with said that we needed to bleed the clutch. I have no idea what I'm doing being new to tractors. I have tried searching and can't find a bleeding valve. Can anyone dumb it down for me. It grinds going into gear and 3rd and 4th won't work at all.

John Saeli · Jul 15, 2016

Sounds like you have a 411B w/ Case-O-Matic. No such thing as "Bleed the Clutch". With you not being familiar with this tractor, I can only say "you are in way over your head". Most likely, an overhaul of the Case-O-Matic is in order. Expensive & not for the novice. Do not grind the gears.

desert eagle · Jul 15, 2016

The first thing you need to do if your
planning on keeping the tractor and
fixing it is to call John saeli and by
the case-o-matic repair manuals and
read them. Second remove the right
front grill screen(right meaning from
behind the steering wheel)and access
the case-o-matic filter housing,then
remove the hose from the housing to the
radiator cooler and take a pressure
check of the case-o-matic system. One
of the most common problems I've run
into on these tractors is a plugged or
restricted oil cooler in the radiator
or dirt in the pressure relief valve in
the case-o-matic pump. I'm sure others
will chime in with help, keep us
posted.

casecollectorsc · Jul 15, 2016

Before you give up on it.....idle the engine down slow. Let it run awhile to warm the oil up and try to ease into gear. If you have the operator manual find out
where to check the caseomatic oil and make sure it's full. Like John said the caseomatic isn't for a novice.

jon f mn · Jul 15, 2016

Really, more info is needed to tell for sure. A com is more complex than a dry clutch, but it's also more forgiving and easier to drive once you get the hang of it. How much grinding are you getting? If its not too bad it could be something as simple as the oil being too thick. And what do you mean by it doesn't work in 3rd and 4th? With a com if you let the clutch out at idle the tractor won't likely move in those gears til you give it throttle. If you put it in 4th and open the throttle will it go then? Think of the com as working very much like an auto transmission in a car, you put it in gear and let the clutch out at idle always, then give it gas to move. Once your moving you pull the lock up lever to lock the converter so it will pull like a dry clutch. There is more to it than that of course, but if you start there you will at least know if it is working or where to start looking for problems.

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