case 1070 PTO while in reverse

I read that you should not use a case 1070 in reverse with the pto engauged as it would shread the trans gears. Is this true as I have little knowledge of the case 1070. I am looking at one to make hay but I back my baler up while tieing. May be an issue that I dont need. Thanks for response.
 
that IS NOT TRUE about shredding gears ,, you should be fine ,,. it is a oiling issue , leaving a power shift in reverse after backing the feed grinder up to the auger and stationary work while in reverse can and wiilll starve a certain part for oil .. cant help but think that the big boyz at Tenneco that bought out case , during a boarddmtg said there was too much money being spent on research and development for the power shift ,,. get it out the door ,, and on the market as is ,, sure woulda been nice to have a double neutral, park pawl ,, and the silly oiling quirk engeneered correctly ,,. , on the other hand the deer and ihcfolx say that the enginres of a case tractor are the verybest , and I certainlygree ..
 
(quoted from post at 15:27:22 08/21/15) , sure woulda been nice to have a double neutral, park pawl ,, and the silly oiling quirk engeneered correctly ,,. .

Add a Differential lock while you are at it.

That said, there sure have been a ton of hours put on these old girls not having had any of those things.
 
I would shy away from the CASE Power Shift, if I correctly understand what you will be doing. With the engine rev'd up to Power-Take off speed, you will be stopping forward direction by obviously disengaging the clutch. Strange things happen inside the Power Shift when that happens, and that will eventually spell DOOM for the Power Shift.
 
differential lok




Differential LOK ? YES !,,.my 1070 has tilt /telescopic steering ,, , I like that , it also came with heat and ac and a case radio, kinda dressed to the nines in 1971,,, just wondered ...was tilt telescp ,standard equipment ,, I would trade that for park pawl , and diff lok ,,. the reverse oiler don't bother me ,, these tractors run and run and run ,.. and are good cold starters and fuel mizers compared to my 4020 known lots of case p/shifts that backup running the baler with no ill harm ,, I think momentarily there is no harm ,,. its just if ya back into a hole to grind feed and forget to place the reverse lever in forward motion and the shifters in neutral ... I would say in a half hour damage will result ... don't know if j saeli is being over cautious about the clutching issue ,,. but I WILL say he knows more about theP/shiftthan I do ,.. I just run them , he fixes then ,,.







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I do not know a lot about round baling, but have a customer that custom bales with a 870 P S tractor. Tractor has 12000+ hrs and we have never touched the P S. He loves it because he does not have grind gears to back-up. Rod.
 
Many many round bales have been baled with case powershifts. They work great because there is no gear
grinding to shift to reverse. The warning only applies to STATIONARY pto work like on a silage blower or
manure pump, there you just need to make sure the tractor is not in reverse while doing it.
 
My cousin and I have put a lot of bales threw his new idea and my caseih 3650 and now my 8480 soft core balers with his [1977]1070 and my [1973]1070with no ps issues.These balers have two arms for tieing so it doesn't take long.Case nutty has put a lot of hours on his 770 round baleing also.I start tieing then back up to where you want to unload then take the powershift out of reverse and finish tieing.Not really in reverse that long.I would hate to guess how many round bales we've made over the years with our 1070's.Good tractors.
 
I've never had an issue, but I guess techniques vary. I stop, tie, kick out the pto, back up a few ft, raise the hood,
just tickle the pto to dump the bale and away we go. I'm very happy with the power shift, it's been good to me
 
Rod: You know what the RPS 34 is doing inside, & how fast it is doing it, every time you depress the clutch pedal @ PTO speed. Rays says he will be doing this with every bale. That is what scares me. We always idle down before depressing the clutch on an RPS 34. Maybe I'm nuts, but we also have an 870, that has done everything here, with many hours, that has never had the RPS34 touched.
 
Like stated I have run my 770 on a round baler many years and hours,, Zero issues But I do not set with my foot on the clutch pedal when tying the bale, I always shift to "N" in the "RANGE",,, also I do not step down on the clutch with the engine speed at pto speed unless I have too except when the bale is starting its tie cycle,,, goes like this with me, bale starts to tie,,, I stop shift in REV back up about 10' or so as mine does not have a kicker, shift to "N" release clutch, all of this is done at PTO speed, tie completes, I throttle back to a idle and kick PTO out in same motion, then I raise the gate and bale ejects, step on clutch,shift then move forward so gate clears bale, start gate down and engage pto as gate is closing, after this cycle let up on clutch and start baling,
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It was said it is a lubrication problem. That is correct.
It won't shred gears it seizes the clutch
packs.watched one dynoed with the ps in reverse
once. Bad deal. I know a lot of guys bale with these
but the only things I've ever seen kill a case was
water down the stack and the ps. Its not doing one
any good to bale with one but they work really good
for it. It will run a long time as long as you dont leave
it in reverse any longer than you have to.
 
Hi John, I do not know how guys operate the tractors when baling. I am sure some are kinder than others to their machines. For the most part I can not say baling or even snow blowing has done much damage to the power shifts. Stationary PTO work with the shift in Rev. will harm them if run long enough in that position as we know all to well. Rod.
 

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