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1953 case vac crankshaft replacement

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Bill_Bier

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I've uploaded a photo of the crank diagram. can anyone tell me if the outer thrust washer and Thrust Plate can actually be seen on the outside of the block once i remove the crank gear? or is it the case that these two parts are "inside" of the block?
See photo attached. thanks
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Yes. The shims limit the end play between the thrust washers. Most older Continental engines use this design for adjusting end play. The outer thrust washers has three brass pins to keep it from spinning while the inner washer can spin with the crank.
 
The inner thrust washer is inside the block, you have remove the crank to pull it off the end to check for wear.

The rest can be removed outside the block by pulling in order every thing, pulley back through the inner thrust washer which is pin to the outside of the block casting.

Joe
 
Reason I am asking....i don't intend to take the crank out, but in putting back together, i am realizing that perhaps all of the parts were not there originally! i only took off two things.
So my question is, Should see the outer Thrust washer and the thrust plate on the outside of teh block over the shaft ?= So those slide over the shaft, and then the crank gear goes on? if so, then i am missing the oil slinger and oil seal.
 
You have me somewhat confused here so I'll just wing it.

The shaft seal is pressed into the timing cover bore. When you pull the timing cover the slinger can hang and come off into the cover bore behind the seal.

Here are a couple pixs after the timing cover is off.

Joe
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ah, I am starting to get it. So the Oil Seal is built into the timing cover. And i found the dust seal built into the timing cover. So the only think i can't see is the Oil Slinger....is that built into teh oil seal? or does it slide on after the the gear cover is on?
Thanks
 
(quoted from post at 21:35:02 11/08/14) ah, I am starting to get it. So the Oil Seal is built into the timing cover. And i found the dust seal built into the timing cover. So the only think i can't see is the Oil Slinger....is that built into teh oil seal? or does it slide on after the the gear cover is on?
Thanks
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the oil slinger goes on after the crank gear but before the timing cover goes on. The pulley holds the slinger on tight.
 
May be a picture will help. The slinger would be tight against the gear when assembled. It is stamped from sheet metal and has a slightly depressed center. Lee
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Great, i am almost there. I thought the Oil Slinger was the Thrust plate. So can anyone show me what a Thrust plate looks like? Once i know that, i should be good to go
 
Great, now, i get the slinger
Now if you happen to have a picture of the Trust plate...is the thust plate "ingrained into the block/Crank shaft? or does it protrude ?
 
The Thrust plate and the Oil Slinger look very much alike, according to the Diagrams. And i only have one item, so i am missing one of those two items
1) Can anyone describe the Difference?
2) anyone know where i can get one?
 
Can you post a pic of the part?

Look at VACLee's pic & post and compare the slinger with the thrust plate pic I posted.

The slinger is pressed moderately heavy sheet metal.

The thrust plate is cast, much heavier metal. One side is machined smooth to mate and rotate on the outer thrust washer.

Don L can probably supply the part you need.

Joe
 
Here are the two side by side. The thrust plate is much thicker and has a flat area on one edge. I have both if you can determine which you need. Lee
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Great, i'll buy Oil Slinger off of you. I sent you an email

Now i just noticed that on my Thust washer, there are NO Pins sticking out..it seems they are sheared off, in the block..Can i just pound out the old ones, and maybe make up a new set out of a nail or something? Or do you have some pins
 
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