Was left a case 1190 a few questions

mudgnome

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Hello all,first post here!.
I have been left a case 1190 from my wife's uncles estate,it has a
Loader and a 7' snowblowere.I live in Ontario and she gets pretty damn cold in the winter,now a guy at work says it will never start in winter if it's left outside.....which it will be.

Can I use a starter fluid to get it going.....or is that a no no with a diesel engine,sorry do not know much about diesels.

Also,I had it running today........but it was hard to engage the pto
With a lot of grinding,it did engage finally.......any thoughts?

Sorry for the long winded first post!.
 
With regard to the PTO, did you have the clutch pedal pushed all the way in?

Starting fluid... It will break rings and pistons on DBs. If you have no other choice, and it is a matter of life an death, it will work. A healthy 3 cyl DB should start at 20F with no help or extraordinary measures.

Instead Use the Thermostart(manifold heater), they are a 12v powered diesel fuel burner that screws into the intake manifold. To operate it, turn the key to the position between "run" and "start", hold there for 20 seconds or so. If everything is in working order it will start much faster.

Or put in a block heater, and plug it in a few hours before you need it.
 
Not "or" block heater. Block heater FIRST!! Plug it in overnight possibly with a tarp over it to warm hydraulics a bit. Magnetic heater on a flat spot to warm hydraulic oil will take a lot of strain off the hydraulic pump in extremely cold weather.
 
1190's are great little tractors. I also agree
a block heater is needed. Do not use starting
fluid.
Ours has a block heater installed where a
freeze plug was.
With the block heater plugged in it starts
great.

1190's have a 2 stage clutch,if you can not get
the pto engaged with the clutch ALL THE DOWN it
may have the 2nd stage clutch stuck. If so try
putting the pto in with the tractor shut off.
BE VERY carefull doing this as the pto may not
be able to be stopped until the engine is shut
off and stops turning!!
Also there is a light that comes on when the
engine is revved up too high and the Hydraulic
oil is too cold.As the oil warms up it will let
you rev the engine higher and higher. The
magnetic heater for the hydraulic oil sounds
like a good idea.
I recommend getting an operators manual if you
dont have one.
Please feel free to post any questions you have
as this is a very friendly forum with a lot of
knowledgeable members.
 
Not to steal a thread here, but on the gear grinding issue, our 1290 will never grind a gear shifting the pto, but I know a half dozen 1390/94’s that will always grind and seem to be adjusted properly. What’s up with that? I know the 12’s and 13’s had different pto’s in them. Anything similar on the 11’s that would cause the grinding?
 

Wow,thank you everyone on the replies....great info...many many
Thanks.

There is what looks like some sort of cord attached to the left side
Of the engine,maybe it has a block heater on it?

Whatdo you guys think of a trickle charger on the battery,should help my cranking power....maybe.It can go down to -30-35c in
The winter.

I had my food right down on the clutch,it grinder for about a second...the then the pto engaged and the snowblower wasa turning..

Tractors are new to me so I have a lot of learning to do,but just from the replies so far has really helped.

Thanks!
 
(quoted from post at 00:53:38 11/03/14)

Whatdo you guys think of a trickle charger on the battery,should help my cranking power....maybe.It can go down to -30-35c in
The winter.

I had my food right down on the clutch,it grinder for about a second...the then the pto engaged and the snowblower wasa turning..

The blower was turning even before you let out the clutch? Not good, at the very least it needs the clutch adjusted. When driving it, how far do you have to push in the clutch before it stops moving?

A trickle charge will help a little, the block heater will help a lot. For Minus 35C, you will need everything right, and even then it will be a struggle.

New group 31 battery, block heater, magnetic oil pan heater, trickle the battery to keep it warm, Thermostart, thin fuel with Kerosene, make sure no water anywhere in fuel system...
 

Hello all,here is an update on the grinding noise when I engage the pto.I assumed that the foot clutch was my pto engage / dissengage.

I was not using the lever to the left my seat!,was I used that everything was butter smooth!.I had seen the lever but for some reason thought it a another brake lever......

I would just like say a thanks to everyone for helping a complete
Newb get through this.....great forum! :D
 

I will post a photo on Tuesday,after reading my previous post...it was a bit hard to follow,so I'll just a couple of pics.

Cheers all!
 
Your 1190 is a great gift. For cold weather starting, a good
fully charged battery, winter grade fuel and clean fuel filters
are critical to good starting. Other poster all gave good
advice, but believe the correct use of the Thermo-start is the
next most important starting aid. A small reservoir holds
about spoonful of fuel. When the key switch is turned to the
"heater" position, a electrical coil is energized and immediatly
heats up.
Fuel is dripped on to the hot coil and is vaporized (some say
ignited). About 20-30 seconds of this fills the intake manifold
with hot ready-to-burn fuel. This system is very useful in
extreme cold weather and does not require outside power
source. When operating, you can hear a sizzling sound, like
bacon frying. Give it a try.
 

One thing that hasn't been mentioned is a battery blanket. It wraps around the battery and has a heating element much like an electric blanket. I've used a number of them over the years, they keep the battery warm enough to give good cranking power. You should be able to find them at your local Canadian Tire or any other such outlet.

Before I had heat in my shed I usually used straight 10W oil in my tractor motors which is good for normal winter temperatures we get.

No sign of snow here yet, fingers crossed. We've had some rough winters these past few years.
 
I own an 1194 (same motor, same basic tractor I believe) and I
have never needed to use a block heater or starting fluid or
battery blanket. I use my tractor to plow snow and last winter I
started her up in single digit temps without a problem. Make
sure the battery is charged and make sure the thermostart is
working. 30 seconds in the "heat" position is all I ever needed
and I do keep it outside also.

P.S. It took me reading my owners manual to figure out the pto
clutch on the left side of the seat so don't feel too bad.
 

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