I am curious will a 148 engine bolt into a 430 in place of a 188 engine. Also will a 188 & 148 bolt to the same torque tubs? The reason Is am am looking at a 430 with some engine issues and have 2 310 triple ranges (parts tractors),and am wondering what will swap back & forth to keep them in operation for years to come. Thanks for the replies.

Mr Bill
 
I have a Case 300 with the 148G it had a cracked crank and block wanted to turn it into a puller looked into the 188 D the bolt patterns are different the 188d is wider so without an adapter plate it will not fit. As far as I know they wont. I stopped at RF Engines and crossed then and they do not line up. Hope this helps a little. The 430 may have a different bell housing, because I know the 530 came with a 188D
 
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Bill

The 148 in your 430 should be interchangeable with a 188 gas or diesel. Both 188s will be about an 1.5 inches longer than the 148, but they will bolt up to the same bellhousings. The extra length in the engines creates several problems including steering rods, hood tin, throttle linkages, etc.

The early 148 engines (300 round nose and x00B) are different in several way, and will not bolt up without some "engineering". - Joe
 
Interesting _ have a 310 industrial (roundnose) gotta do an overhaul on the engine this winter. I also have a 300 tricycle (roundnose) that burned , I bought it for parts the engone is totally wasted. Then I have a 310 forklift (square nose - now parts). The starter off the 148 square nose is different from the roundnose starter yet they are 148s. The 430 is a 431 (If I can make the deal work (got to move it 600 miles) I think I can save the engine. I just got a 6ft Mott flail mower and hope to use it on the 430. I have children that aren't making enough $ and want to get 3 of them working on their own - mowing - lawn care - stump grinding etc. I never felt in this world it is good to depend on one job. When my turn comes I want to know they can provide for them and my grandchildren. I have a real nice Ferguson TO-30 I want to use for trading material.
 
Sorry, I forgot about the 6V and 12V two bolt starter tractors with 148 engines in them. They are diff. My mind was on the later 12V with 3 bolt starters. When the round nose tractors were built, and the 300B they had 148 engines with 2 bolt starters or Continental diesels in them. A totally diff animal.
Loren
 

Thanks Loren - That rings a bell the forklift has a 3 bolt 12volt. Isn't the engine the same though, and the bell housing what has been changed? I need to take a ride and have a look see. Every thing I am looking at is gas.
 

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