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Anonymous-0 · May 5, 2013

I have a 930 comfort king and am cannot figure out this pto issue. I overhauled the pto and put it back together and I absolutely cannot get that engagement lever to snap over center. I know its put together right and the ive tried moving the end part of the lever with the splines to a different part of the shaft and I know its in the right spot now. Theres not much slop in the parts down there either. I am about at my wits end ive screwed around for hours with it. I'm not a total dummy either. I've also been adjusting the clutch back and forth to no avail. Maybe ive adjusted the clutch too far and the threads ran out on that clutch pack and I gotta pull the housing again but no matter where its adjusted to it still wont go. Also i can turn the output shaft freely and brake works and if i pull up on lever and hold with vice grips it will lock up good like it is supposed to. Sorry for being a little longwinded and if i repeated myself a few times but just really frustrated right now. Thank you so much. I hope this makes sense!

cshess · May 5, 2013

If you have absolutely tightned clutch to its limit you dont have corect number of plates installed.

Anonymous-0 · May 5, 2013

have you hooked it up to sumthin and gave it a whirl ??/reason I ask,,,This 67 / 930 diesel act6ed just like you say , Wouldn't go over center ???,,. hooked it up to auger and worked just fine ,, even felt right on the lever going over center ...

mopar66701 · May 5, 2013

You dont have the lever indexed in the proper location on the splined shaft. Probably just one off. Thats all it takes

mopar66701 · May 5, 2013

One more thing on that....if you had the lever in the wrong splines and tightened the adjustment trying to get it to snap over then you will have to back it off a long way after locating the lever correctly before it will have enough clearance to work right.

cshess · May 5, 2013

Brief parts list says there should be 6 friction an probably 7 steel discs in there.With clutch out you should have to have adjustment turned loose all way an by tightening very little should not be able to push by hand over center. Also be sure you check an use hardened cotter pins in pins.

Anonymous-0 · May 5, 2013

Good thought but if I mov it one spline one way it's too far either way its like it needs to be in between two splines. I assume the lever snapping over enter is what holds it right? Or is it inside that holds it ? I'll try what hike more says but hell maybe ill cut a notch in the lever to hold it against the floor panel when it's up enough to hold clutch tight?

mopar66701 · May 5, 2013

Going to have to get it to go overcenter to hold. Im speaking from recent experience as i just did one of these and it acted like yours. I thought i lined up my splines right and i even marked it before disassbly but as you know its not easy to see where thats located. Assuming you did put things together right inside it comes down to the lever being correctly indexed on the shaft and then proper adjustment of tge clutch pack. Wish i had someone to turn the engine when i was doing mine. I bet i was back and forth 50 times. I was off one spline

mEl · May 5, 2013

(quoted from post at 11:58:18 05/05/13) Going to have to get it to go overcenter to hold. Im speaking from recent experience as i just did one of these and it acted like yours. I thought i lined up my splines right and i even marked it before disassbly but as you know its not easy to see where thats located. Assuming you did put things together right inside it comes down to the lever being correctly indexed on the shaft and then proper adjustment of tge clutch pack. Wish i had someone to turn the engine when i was doing mine. I bet i was back and forth 50 times. I was off one spline

You cannot forcibly hold the PTO pressure on manually externally or the brass engagement yoke will be destroyed very quickly. It is meant to engage and disengage the clutch and the little internal links dropping over center is what locks it up from disengaging.

Look in the hole while someone holds the lever up and observe the links, if they are not going overcenter the clutch adj is to tight, if they are it is to loose, study it for a couple minutes and you will see what I mean. The engagement shaft and its lever should have centerpunch marks to locate the proper splines together.

Keep working at it, you'll get it providing the proper amounts of parts are installed.

mEl

mopar66701 · May 5, 2013

Dont suppose he might have left a plate in when he took it
apart possibly?

mEl · May 5, 2013

Suppose it's possible but should have seen that upon reassembly, that clutch can be adjusted within a few clicks on the bench requiring very little adjustment in the tractor, I adjust them so they will just snap overcenter with real firm hand pressure then install them and a couple clicks and you're there.

Done many many in a lifetime tho.

mEl

Case Nutty 1660 · May 5, 2013

just a thought but you are putting the cover back on each time you test for engaugment?

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