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Re: STARTING FLUID, The Do's and Don'ts !

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1370rod

03-19-2013 17:43:17
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John, as stated before I am not promoting the use of starting fluid, nothing could be further from the truth. I only feel its fair to let those with no negative reports tell there story also. I wish we could blame the cracking of heads on the use of starting fluid, it would make the choice really easy to use or not. I have seen heads crack that were never exposed to starting fluid and know there are many factors to be taken in when trying to come up with a reason for failures. I simply do not want to tell someone they are wrong without knowing all the facts and I don't know them all. I respect everyones opinions. Thanks for your response, Rod.

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casecollectorsc

03-19-2013 19:00:27
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 Re: STARTING FLUID, The Do's and Don'ts ! in reply to 1370rod, 03-19-2013 17:43:17  
I've got a 1030 that I bought used in 72. Put sleeve and pistons in twice in the70s. Cracked a sleeve and put in new. Shortly after dealer told me Case said you needed to true the flange area to keep them from breaking sleeves. Sure enough 2 years put sleeves in again but, had the block trued up. That was in 76. Tractor is still on that overhaul. Heads are original yet. Always needs a whiff at temps below 60 degrees. When that tractor is in the field in the spring and temps. are 30 or below it needs a whiff to get it running. Other than run it home each nite and plug it in, its gonna take a little ether to get it running. I have overhauled all Case engines from the 504 on down so I know not to over use the ether and have had good luck. The heads on the 1030 and 730 are original and 40+ years old.

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John Saeli

03-20-2013 05:28:52
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 Re: STARTING FLUID, The Do's and Don'ts ! in reply to casecollectorsc, 03-19-2013 19:00:27  
When any CASE engine will not start below 60 degrees, without ether, something is wrong. No cracks? Try this & get back, if you would. Fill the radiator right to the top, over the vent & look for bubbles. She'll push some out as she warms, but shouldn't see compression bubbles. Let us know.



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casecollectorsc

03-20-2013 07:18:22
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 Re: STARTING FLUID, The Do's and Don'ts ! in reply to John Saeli, 03-20-2013 05:28:52  
For sure there's no bubbles from any of the Case diesels on this farm. I had a 830 irrigation engine that lost a hose and before the Murphy switch could shut it down a head cracked but thats it. The 1030 came here in 72 with a new block and new overhaul. Case apparently had line bore problems with some early 451 blocks and Case replaced them. This tractor was one of them. New engine. Cold as heck day just before freeze up in the fall when it was delivered. Wouldn't start off the truck. Pre heat, still no go. Waited a while, then a whiff of ether and it was running. The old wore out 500 is the best cold starter we've got followed by the 4 930 westerns.

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John Saeli

03-20-2013 08:01:38
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 Re: STARTING FLUID, The Do's and Don'ts ! in reply to casecollectorsc, 03-20-2013 07:18:22  
You won't know until you fill right up in the neck. Keep us posted.



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