ether spray

IMO the best spot is someplace away from a diesel engine! I've pretty much given ether up since discovering that a hot air gun at the air intake gets things going just fine with out that "death rattle" ether gives. I'm sure I'll end up using ether someday again, but I'm in no hurry.
 
(quoted from post at 16:26:19 03/17/13) Where is the best spot to spray ether to get a Case 731 to start on cold days

You would be doing yourself a favor by installing a block heater and using that as a starting aid rather than ether. If you follow this forum to any extent you are aware of the long term damage done by its use. Many use it successfully but many have reported broken rings, pistons and gasket failure, whereas a couple hours of block heater and your engine will start like summertime. I am sure this will draw comment but I have repaired engines from its overuse and feel heat is the better solution to your starting issue
 
I agree with all of you ether isn't a great thing to use, some type of heater needs to be installed this spring so we don't have issues the next winter.Thanks everyone, we will wait until it warms up
 
Well some things come to mind.....1st TIME: if you plan ahead "plug it in". 2nd TEMP: the colder it is the longer it will take to heat-up. So that brings us to either I'am sure "THEE EXPERTS" will straighten me out!!! My experance has been the amount of "drugs" (either) you pump into the air intake. IF you can get by with a sniff! OK. BUT alot of guys think if little is good.........What ta hell alot is better!!!! IT don't take THEE EXPERTS to hear the sounds of dry metal sounds to know that ain't good. I plug my 630 (oil blockheater) in the nite before,temps are @ 35 degrees or colder. Fires up. So experts you tell me? One last thing hours on the engine plays apart in this as well.
 
I learned the hard way 35 years ago. I was told, light mist not directly in, won't hurt a thing. WRONG!! Do yourself a favor & do not use it. 2 of the best 12V Batteries you can get, Group 30's or 31's, hooked in parallel, working manifold heater, & block heater are what you need.
 
In my feeble mind the best use for ether, is to use for removing oil film when cleaning parts. A friend asked me why I had so much ether in my shop,and onli one ford deisel. Kinda of embarresed,feeling like a child that just got caught - I told him the truth. For cleaning .I don't think he believed me till I helped him overhaul a rear end - he said "you weren't kidding about using ether to clean with". Its about the worst starting aid there is.
 
If you have to use a cold starting aid such as starting fluid,I believe it should ALWAYS be applied before the air filters. The best being at the air intake. Now I am not promoting the use of the product, merely answering the question. In a perfect world we would not use it, but unfortunetly we know there are times and places nothing else will do. In some cases(pardon the pun) its not the product causing the damage , its the nut holding the can. Always apply product before filters, the engine MUST be cranking at NORMAL cranking SPEED, and use ONLY enough to start engine. If engine starts immediately you used to much. If engine is not cranking at normal speed, do not apply. If you can not have engine cranking durring application do not use product. Have an engine heater is by far the best solution to start a cold engine. But if a situation arises and there is no other choice to get an cold engine started. By appling a starting aid PROPERLY can save the day. However as stated before avoiding its use will save you from missusing it. Rod.
 
As said conservative is the way. We had many 30 series from dad's favorite a 730 to my brother Don's most used up 930 ever, we had 830's and 1030's too and never had one that didn't have a can of either in the tool box and never had any problems that I know of. Of course we all knew better than to over use it. Rod's advise on use is spot on.
 
when i had my 1030 very seldom had to use ether but i would stand up lean slightly forward and just whiff the intake while cranking worked every time.
 
Rod: Always value your posts, but I never use ether to start any of my CASE engines. We do have a 6V-53 screamer that needs a snort once in a while, but never on the CASE engines. I'm a stickler on good batteries & cables. When I do a valve job on a CASE head, the valves & seats never get ground, always replaced. Grind valves & seats & you guaranteed a hard starting diesel.
 
My 700has a silver pull button that says ether cold start on it,and a little canister must have been for a little bag that the lever broke with ether in it,would this have been a add on thing or a factory option?
 
Rod, sure wish you woulda been around in 1960's cause I beleive the 700 life woulda been spared afew more yrs. I remember when dad would "pump drugs" into the ole girl while i turned the key!!! 20 below and 30wt. oil........But thats what the case dealer told dad to do. Boy would nasty sound!!! but I was only 11 or 12 yrs. old. Thanks for sharing
 
I am not afraid of using starting fluid. I much prefer to control the spray myself, right into the air cleaner. Some model Steiger tractors have the ether electric control wired in with the starter so you cannot apply ether unless starter is engaged. This still doesn't prevent one from giving it too much when cranking speed is low. I have no idea how the new tractors are handling it now. Just never use starting fluid while using glow plugs or manifold heaters as they can and do blow the whole intake system off the tractor. We all know starting fluid can damage an engine but few realize it can blow up and damage the guy putting it in engine.
 
I agree that ether is not the best idea, but is not instant death to an engine. A whiff is all that is needed. My '54 Case 500 and my Versatile 150 Perkins both came with factory ether injection systems. Just use you head.
 
Thank you very much for all of your replies on Ether, but while I have all of your ears I thought I would ask for additional help. When I take the PTO out of engage, it doesn't completely turn off. Is there an adjustment I can make
 

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