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Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump

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Case Nutty 1660

02-19-2013 09:24:51
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your are correct I forgot to add you would need a 600 with manual steering




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Jgarner

02-19-2013 09:35:26
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 02-19-2013 09:24:51  
I am not sue if the pump for a manual steering 600 combine would be big enough. From my research it looks like that pump would have insufficient volume and maybe pressure to power the 630 steering, I am guessing it is the Char Lynn type steering like I have on mine.

I am just about ready to start her up since I did the manual to power conversion, body work and painting on the tin. The cork gasket on the fuel strainer is leaking like a sieve. I am hoping after it sits a few days exposed to gasoline it will moisten up a bit and hold.

The tractor pumps are hard to come by but they are out there. I have some pump pieces that may be of assistance to Fred if he has any interest.

Jim

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Case Nutty 1660

02-19-2013 09:42:39
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Jgarner, 02-19-2013 09:35:26  
the hdr pump was at least 7 gpm and that would be more than enough for steering, I will look up the hyd specs to be sure,



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Jgarner

02-19-2013 15:53:45
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 02-19-2013 09:42:39  
Just going by the pump I had whose model number equated to the combine pump, then I looked up the sizes for the pump gears on the Eaton site, they still make a similar pump with the same gears. Just from what I was seeing it looked like the longer gear was for the steering and the shorter gear, on the two stage, was for the pick up head. Without a bunch of digging I don't remember what the out put was but I bet you have some technical data I don't have. I agree, if its 7 gpm or greater it will work. I want to say the tractor pump was little over 9 gpm.

The two stage pump that was supposed to be the right thing had one pretty long gear and one little short gear. I figured the short one was for the pick up head.I still have the old parts if we need to do some comparisons. The shafts and gears are bad but the housing blocks are in pretty good shape. The shafts are no longer available from Eaton but the gears are. I had considered having new shafts made at a machine shop but found a pump for $50 and didn't thinks I could get shafts made for that.

Jim

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rcgrey

02-19-2013 17:38:20
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Jgarner, 02-19-2013 15:53:45  
I cut the shaft off on a 600 combine pump and used the short section for the charlyn power steering on my 300 it"s a little slow at a dead idle but anything above that it works great. Jim



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Case Nutty 1660

02-19-2013 16:53:21
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Jgarner, 02-19-2013 15:53:45  

this is the belt driven pump which is bigger in size than the the gear driven one on the 600 the 660 has hydrostatic steering like the 630 so I scanned this, I can tell you a 2670 does not have 9gpm to the steering and to have that much flow you would need a much larger amount of oil to keep it cool also if you like I can scan the 600 book also

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Jgarner

02-20-2013 06:10:36
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 Re: Case 630 pwr srty pump in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 02-19-2013 16:53:21  
Sent Fred my parts break downs I got from Eaton. The 1985 version on the drawing said displacemnt was 6.5 gpm at full throttle, 1.0 at idle. Don't know where I got 9.0 from but I looked at a BUNCH of stuff trying to figure out how to rebuild what I had before I found the replacement.

Jim



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