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Case Nutty 1660

02-12-2013 07:45:52
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Slim, the "red" or "batt" wire is a junction point on the starter solinoid point and is only connected with the starter when power is applied to the "start" post on the solinoid, this should in no way entergize the starter, if it is I would think you have a bad solinoid, or am I missing some thing on your tractor? post me some close up shots of how you have your starter wired up ,, also the red wire should be hot at all times so even when charging it should not enguage the starter, are you sure you have not mixed up the "start" post with the "hot start" side on the solinoid? but I can not se the starter working if hooked that way unless you do have a bad solinoid

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denverslim

02-12-2013 16:32:59
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 02-12-2013 07:45:52  
thanks for the replys. I"ll post pictures of all the confusion tomorrow. We"ll see if we can possibly get to the bottom of all this...slim



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denverslim

02-13-2013 06:51:53
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to denverslim, 02-12-2013 16:32:59  
I bow down to all of you guys after slapping my forehead! I finally get it. I had the red wire going to the starter going thru the circuit breaker with the generator also on the breaker as shown. This was causing juice to go to the starter from the genny.

I realize now the red wire goes to the center of the solenoid, not the right side. Thanks for all your patience, words and sketches. Now I'll clean up my ring gear once more and move on...slim

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Case Nutty 1660

02-13-2013 07:27:16
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to denverslim, 02-13-2013 06:51:53  
glad it worked out and Bro Loren's diagram was a big help I am sure cnt



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denverslim

02-13-2013 06:54:08
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to denverslim, 02-13-2013 06:51:53  
By the way, the wiring diagrams, particularly the ones in the shop manual are really bad. You can never really see where the wires on the genny or the starter go. Us idiots need BIG pictures and maybe color coordinated wire diagrams!



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Jgarner

02-13-2013 08:16:44
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to denverslim, 02-13-2013 06:54:08  
Denver, my JI Case shop manual (630 gas engine module) has a wiring diagram with color codes. Do you have an 830 gas engine manual? If not I can send you a PDF copy of my 630 manual page, should be basically the same. I used it to build a new wiring harness with factory color wires. The only wire color I could not duplicate was a Black with Red stripe. I think I would have had to have bought 5,000ft to get it (a factory run for special order colors). I used brown. (<:

Jim

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denverslim

02-13-2013 09:21:27
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 Re: Charging system on my 830 in reply to Jgarner, 02-13-2013 08:16:44  

Thanks, Jim. I have the shop manual. The wiring diagram in mine has the wiring color coded by an number that refers me to a key code. I eventually figure it out, but the starter solenoid configuration is so small and confusing that I couldn't figure out which wire goes where. Thanks to all the help from the forum I got it. Really, I owe you guys.
Books and manuals are wonderful, but sometimes I need someone to actually explain WHY to totally understand. A slap up along side the head helps too. Lol. I blame it all on the fact that Mom was smoking when she was pregnant with me. Lol...slim

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