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Jim in Sask 01-01-2013 20:02:55 142.165.85.184 Report to Moderator	Often see the IH guys speculating about "what if" and "what would have been" in the IH tractor line if the amalgamation with Case had never happened. Of course the Magnum comes up since it is essentially an IH from the firewall to the drawbar. I've always wondered what Case was developing to succeed the 94 series tractors. The 1896 and 2096 give a good indication with the CDC engine and the bigger 94 series had the 24-speed tranny. I expect any subsequent series would have the 505 CDC engine and the 24-speed transmission. One guy on another forum mentioned Case was developing a new cab with 2 doors - I don't really see the point to that. In an earlier post today RGMartin makes mention of a "1496" with the CDC engine. From a video I have it sounds like a lot of the development work on the first Maxxums was done by the David Brown guys. So - anybody have any knowledge of "what might have been" if IH hadn't come on the scene? Given the times back then it's possible Case ag tractors might have disappeared altogether. As it turned out the company now gives very little nod to the Case side of the CaseIH heritage anymore. [Reply]   [No Email]
dboll 01-02-2013 19:03:55 209.23.168.225 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   Case did ditch the stupid IH wedge lock rear wheels and go with the Case design which was far superior.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Ken Jentges 01-02-2013 18:24:07 166.181.3.215 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   I remember seeing a 2296 on the test track at the Racine tractor plant sometime after the merger. It was painted in the 94 color scheme, and of course I didn't have a camera.   [Reply]  [No Email]
bermuda ken 01-02-2013 06:31:57 50.50.17.146 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   My notes indicate that the 96 series would be expanded to replace the 94 series. The 504 was going to be replaced by the 505 CDC in all of the 94 series row crops. A 24 speed P.S. transmission(same as the 94 series) was to be carried over. An all new 2-door cab was to be fitted on the new larger 96 series. Some of this is covered in the new CASEIH tractor book due out in July of 2013.   [Reply]  [No Email]
JW 01-02-2013 06:07:33 75.249.42.197 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   I talked to someone who was in R&D when the merger took place. He said they had already installed and tested 505s in 4694s. They had also tried a 855 in a 4894.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Nedd 01-02-2013 06:13:19 165.206.16.130 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to JW, 01-02-2013 06:07:33   Interesting, I've seen a 1470 with an 855 in it and want to do a similar set up in a 4890.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Joseph Hunter 01-02-2013 04:25:07 12.109.71.133 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   Found this info on the "5094". http://www.toytractorshow.com/Case6wd.htm   [Reply]  [No Email]
RGMartin 01-02-2013 04:21:00 98.16.79.4 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to KYCASE1, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   Jim in Sask said: (quoted from post at 00:02:55 01/02/13) In an earlier post today RGMartin makes mention of a "1496" with the CDC engine. From a video I have it sounds like a lot of the development work on the first Maxxums was done by the David Brown guys. At casual glance, it looks like a 1494, Study the picture a bit and you see lots of changes. DB was a gear company first, and still, makes sense they would have involvement in the Maxxum transmission. One of the guys over on the DB forum shared a fair bit of info on the project/himself being moved to Germany. Another picture of a different but similar prototype: This post was edited by RGMartin at 04:26:37 01/02/13.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Adirondack case guy 01-02-2013 10:06:56 74.69.160.79 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to RGMartin, 01-02-2013 04:21:00   Rich, I was part of a group of case dealers that Attended meetings at the new Consolidated Diesel facilities in 1982? They spent some time telling us of their plans to repower all Case Ag. and Industrial equipment with the new CDC engines. They showed us pics., like the first you posted. I don't know if the 3-290 ever made it into any Case equipment. We were sure looking forward to the CDC powered DBs. The later Maxxums wern't exactly what we were expecting, and the electric over hyd trans, turned into a nightmare in the early years. The DB hydra-shift was pretty bullet proof. We were also really looking forward to seeing the 1690 engine disapear. That 6cyl engine should have been good with the multiple head design and all, but turned out to be the opposite. Loren   [Reply]  [No Email]
1370rod 01-02-2013 05:22:31 174.125.224.243 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to RGMartin, 01-02-2013 04:21:00   If one was to paint those tractors red from a distance they sure would look like a Maxxum, Rod.   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jason Kozlowski 01-02-2013 00:50:28 174.54.226.34 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   Case had a model 5094 in the works. The project was started before the 4994 was developed, but the 4994 was rushed into production ahead of the 5094 when competitors entered into the 400hp market, and Case needed a tractor to compete. The 5094 was supposed to be a 600hp 6x6 tractor. All the drawings were said to be finalized, and, if I remember correctly, the frame and axles for the prototype were produced, and were in Racine until they were scrapped sometime after the merger. I have read two different versions of this story in the past, but parts of this tractor were actually built, and the drawings for it probably still exist today in the hands of CNH.   [Reply]  [No Email]
bermuda ken 01-02-2013 20:12:57 71.82.164.143 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jason Kozlowski, 01-02-2013 00:50:28   Why would CASE develop an articulated?? After years of bashing everyone else who made them, did CASE finally "see the light" that rigid frame 4wds are not what farmers wanted???   [Reply]  [No Email]
Jim in Sask 01-03-2013 17:42:23 142.165.85.108 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to bermuda ken, 01-02-2013 20:12:57   Quoting Removed, click Modern View to see Probably same thing as John Deere bringing out a rotary combine after years of bashing rotaries made by most other combine manufacturers. :P   [Reply]  [No Email]
1948 mm 01-01-2013 20:23:55 208.71.219.61 Report to Moderator	Re: Case prototype tractors before linkup with IH in reply to Jim in Sask, 01-01-2013 20:02:55   Good question, I have often wondered what the next new case tractor would be like, maybe they had nothing in mind except for an engine change?   [Reply]  [No Email]