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rusty6

11-13-2012 13:59:44
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That yellow cab/black hood paint scheme is one I have never seen here. The tractors were black from one end to the other. Maybe the local dealer just didn't get any of the yellow cab/black hood on the lot here in Sask.




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Adirondack case guy

11-13-2012 14:52:20
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to rusty6, 11-13-2012 13:59:44  
Ralph,
It has been told that there was a comunications problem between Case and Hiniker who made the original Case cabs, and the cabs were never painted black, for the 1970 GDs, like Case had requested. I have nothing to varify this, other than hearsay. I personally liked the GD paint better than the BKs.
Loren



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Case Nutty 1660

11-13-2012 15:21:38
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Adirondack case guy, 11-13-2012 14:52:20  

Bro, the story we got from our service rep on cabs for the "70" series was this, they sent Case 10 cabs, five were installed and put into testing, all five were crushed and failed in roll over testing and would have been fatal if a driver had been in them, Case then decided NOT to have them build cabs with ROPS at all and then built their own cabs from then on, so as far as we were told these were Case built cabs on all production "70" series tractors, I remember it was a big deal to our dealership as we was selling Egging and Sims cabs except for 3 or 4 1030's with the factory Allen cab and my Dad was concerned about the safty of the ROPS for Ag and industrial units, the scan above seems to verify my memory cnt

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Adirondack case guy

11-13-2012 16:56:16
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 11-13-2012 15:21:38  
Bro,
Indeed the 70 series cab was Case designed, and speced, however, I was told that Hiniker, worked in conjunction with Case engineers.??????
My Dad and I went to Pheonix AZ. for the intro to the 70 series and Case made a very big presentation of the rollover testing that you posted pics. of.
Loren



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1370rod

11-13-2012 17:59:04
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Adirondack case guy, 11-13-2012 16:56:16  
I am enjoying the exchange of info you guys are having and would like to add something. My dad purchased one of the very early 970's. Factory cab it had a tag on the RH post in the cab saying who manufactured the cab. I am not 100% confident my memory is correct, but I think it said Ansel, I am sure it was not Hinniker which is a Mankato MN company I know. Who ever made the factory cab for the 9-1030's I think made the first 70's cab. I am confident in saying the very first 70 series cab were of CASE spec's ,but built by someone else. Rod.

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casecollectorsc

11-13-2012 18:50:04
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to 1370rod, 11-13-2012 17:59:04  
Allen was the company that built the 9-1030 and Case combine cabs. Was under the impression Allen built the first cabs for the 70 series, but was rejected by Case, then they built their own cabs to control quality.



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Case Nutty 1660

11-13-2012 18:58:16
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to casecollectorsc, 11-13-2012 18:50:04  
yes that is the same thing I said, that I was told by our rep,,lets see how many are on our side LOL Case also made their own cabs for the 580B with a built in ROPS starting in 1971 cnt



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casecollectorsc

11-13-2012 20:00:39
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 11-13-2012 18:58:16  
The Allen cabs were in my opinion very good for what they were. I have a factory cab on a 1030 and I like it. Same with the combine cabs. They were much better than some of the after market companies. Vision was so much better and ventilation was good on the combine cabs compared to the after market companies. Plus they don't shake and rattle.



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Case Nutty 1660

11-13-2012 20:37:40
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to casecollectorsc, 11-13-2012 20:00:39  
Yes I agree with you completely they are very well designed cabs I think they still make cabs today or at least A/C systems I ran a Hough loader back in the late 80's that had a Allen Air system in it cnt



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Adirondack case guy

11-13-2012 18:24:09
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to 1370rod, 11-13-2012 17:59:04  
Rod,
We're on the same track, but the cogs in my brain have become a bit worn. LOL. As I think about this an other name comes to mind also, "Hinson". I will set back and see where this thread goes from here.
Loren



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1370rod

11-13-2012 21:12:21
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Adirondack case guy, 11-13-2012 18:24:09  
Loren, that might be it, I belief thats it. Hinson, good call, I'll go with that. I will try to dust off some of these old brain cells and think a little more,but Hinson I bet is correct. Those first cabs were built by them. All those cabs with that dumb air filter above the steering wheel and the cab windows have square corners are Hinson, cabs with rounded window corners are the CASE built cabs. Also when the cab air filter got moved back were they slide into the rear of the cab is the first CASE built cab with rounded window corners. It was a year or so later when they added that little overhang on the back that remained the same till halting production of the 70's. My BK has the rear slide in filter and rounded window corners, a CASE cab, built Oct, 71. Thanks for jogging my memory, Rod.

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1370rod

11-13-2012 21:50:57
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to 1370rod, 11-13-2012 21:12:21  
I forgot to add, go back to the Golden Demo pic your Bro posted. Square corner windows, that is a Hinson cab, the poor guys going to get the dash and steering wheel full of dust when ever he hits a bump because of that filter location. I know, dads 970 was a good tractor and I spent a lot of hrs on it, that was about the only complaint we had, Rod.



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Case Nutty 1660

11-13-2012 17:26:40
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Adirondack case guy, 11-13-2012 16:56:16  
Bro I remember the rep showing us these shots some time late in 68 (first time I laid eyes on the new tractors) and saying this was the Hiniker cab tha failed, these shots have always taken me ba ck to that day in the shop as these were the same frames the distric man had with him, I think they made them at Bettendorf but am not completely sure on that but I am pretty sure it was not a Racine built cab, Dad went to Intro "70" at Racine so he missed the Phoenix intro cnt

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1370rod

11-13-2012 21:31:18
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 Re: more on Demostrators in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 11-13-2012 17:26:40  
Hi Nutty, I hope Your Wife Is doing better, we certainly wish her the best. I recall seeing those pics before of the tractor rolling but don't remember were. I do recall in 1971 at the Spencer IA fair CASE had a 1070 on display up-side down resting on the cab, they were demonstrating that the new CASE cab would protect you in a roll over. It attracted a lot of attention back then. Rod.



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