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outsidersag 10-18-2012 15:02:36 75.245.155.229 Report to Moderator	Anyone know if the rod pin in a 504 piston is the same size as the 4 3/8 piston out of an 830 diesel? [Reply]   [No Email]
dboll 10-19-2012 05:56:35 209.23.168.233 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 15:02:36   what exactly are you planning on doing? I assume you have some 830 rods and pistons that you want to work with? A 504 piston will have a precup so unless you are building a direct injected dsl I would forget them [Reply]  [No Email]
outsidersag 10-19-2012 10:32:47 75.234.161.70 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to dboll, 10-19-2012 05:56:35   Its going to be a gas with a turbo. I have a set of good 830 diesel sleeves and pistons and rods i want to use just because i have them. This is going to be a clean out some of the parts in the shop project. [Reply]  [No Email]
dboll 10-19-2012 05:39:17 209.23.168.233 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 15:02:36   contrary to the self appointed resident expert here the 830 diesel and the 451 both have a 1.4995 diameter pin so maybe someone can explain why you would need 1070 rods to get the wrist pin size that you already have, 20/2290 are both small pin pistons,a 22 has keystone rings, a 20 has straight cut rings, you building a gas or dsl.? gas rods would cut down your reciprocating weight a little and if you stroke it you can run bbc pistons, M farmall rods work good with a 2.5" journal and a piston with the right height would allow you to run a one piece rod instead of welded rods [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 10-19-2012 07:06:06 70.194.65.22 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to dboll, 10-19-2012 05:39:17   Doug, doug, doug, You have so much anger and resentment. I'm worried that carrying around all that will lead to health problems. It's not uncommon for that kind of stress to lead to hyper tension, which can lead to ulsers, heart attacks, and even stroke. Maybe you could seek the help of a certified profesional to help you deal with these personal problems and put them behind you. I know I speak for everyone here at the case family when I say we all care deeply about you and only want what's best for you so you can continue to provide all the quality help and advice that you have in the past for many more years. Love ya man!!! [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 10-18-2012 16:02:02 70.197.193.25 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 15:02:36   If you want you can e-mail me, I'll walk you through a couple a problems you'll run into on a project like this. [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 10-18-2012 15:54:46 70.197.193.25 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 15:02:36   No, but you can change your rods for 1070/1170 rods then 2090 pistons will fit. Done that with a 930 years ago. [Reply]  [No Email]
outsidersag 10-18-2012 16:02:54 75.245.155.229 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to jon f mn, 10-18-2012 15:54:46   Im thinking about having a 400 block bored to take a 504 sleeve, not sure what piston and rod would work. [Reply]  [No Email]
DKase 10-18-2012 18:16:24 75.102.180.184 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 16:02:54   WOW!!!! That will be one HUGE hole!. Now 336 might be possible. LOL [Reply]  [No Email]
outsidersag 10-18-2012 18:31:17 75.245.155.229 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to DKase, 10-18-2012 18:16:24   I got a good set of 4 3/8 pistons and sleeves from an 830 but i just gota try 4 5/8!!!! [Reply]  [No Email]
jon f mn 10-18-2012 21:29:25 70.194.66.248 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 18:31:17   Do you realise that the 504 pistons are not flat top and require a head change as well? If the MM pistons have the same dimentions and are flat top they would be an easier change. [Reply]  [No Email]
outsidersag 10-18-2012 16:02:40 75.245.155.229 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to jon f mn, 10-18-2012 15:54:46   Im thinking about having a 400 block bored to take a 504 sleeve, not sure what piston and rod would work. [Reply]  [No Email]
jerry he 10-18-2012 18:44:10 74.34.74.174 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 16:02:40   We bored an 830 gas block put in 504 sleeves used 830 rods with G1000 pistons. With a little other work got us a nice 336 puller. [Reply]  [No Email]
outsidersag 10-18-2012 18:49:35 75.245.155.229 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to jerry he, 10-18-2012 18:44:10   does the G1000 have the same size rod pin for the 830 rod or did you have to modify? [Reply]  [No Email]
Don L. 10-19-2012 06:02:03 75.105.32.39 Report to Moderator	Re: 504 piston in reply to outsidersag, 10-18-2012 18:49:35   I am thinking I have uesed 1000 MM pistons around here somewhere... Don L. [Reply]  [No Email]