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trefoil 09-13-2012 18:35:05 174.124.58.202 Report to Moderator	will a pto from a case 300 fit into my cae 200 or maybe its a 211 thanks trefoil [Reply]   [No Email]
JPFL 09-14-2012 07:01:47 173.65.222.172 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to trefoil, 09-13-2012 18:35:05   FYI, I have a few 211b parts left, good wide front axle, rear hubs & axles, gas tank, hyd. parts. Thanks Jim 813--------- [Reply]  [No Email]
Joe Young 09-13-2012 19:02:50 64.126.67.179 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to trefoil, 09-13-2012 18:35:05   Did the 211 have a PTO installed previously? If it did, I believe the unit from the 300 should bolt up. If the 211 was born without a PTO, it may not accommodate the PTO drive shaft through the transmission and into a splined clutch shaft. - Joe [Reply]  [No Email]
trefoil 09-14-2012 17:57:37 72.160.238.132 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Joe Young, 09-13-2012 19:02:50   I believe the 211 was born with out a pto.what do I have to do to find out if the pto will fit. thanks for the info. trefoil [Reply]  [No Email]
Joe Young 09-14-2012 18:28:07 64.126.67.179 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to trefoil, 09-14-2012 17:57:37   trefoil My concern in the original post was that the main shaft on the non-PTO tractors might not be hollow or splined, thus would not accommodate the PTO drive shaft that extends forward through the transmission, triple range (if so equipped) and ahead of the hand clutch into splines on the main shaft aft of the clutch. I got my 200B parts manual out this evening and studied the parts diagrams with and without a factory PTO. It looks like you should have no problems installing the PTO system from a 300. The shafts are consistent with and without a factory PTO on the 200B, and the part/assembly numbers for the PTOs are identical between the 300 and 200B. I can't think of any other gotchas at the moment, but that doesn't mean there isn't something.... Good luck. - Joe [Reply]  [No Email]
Adirondack case guy 09-15-2012 05:17:46 74.69.160.79 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Joe Young, 09-14-2012 18:28:07   Joe, I might be wrong, but wasn't there a freezeplug installed in the hollow tranny shaft when there was no PTO installed? If so, it would have to be knocked out. It's been many a year since I've had my hands inside a trans housing. Loren [Reply]  [No Email]
Joe Young 09-15-2012 09:13:26 64.126.67.179 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Adirondack case guy, 09-15-2012 05:17:46   Loren, You're exactly right. I went back to the parts manual and it shows an expansion plug (p.n. V22152) on the aft end of the mainshaft. Great catch. - Joe [Reply]  [No Email]
Case Nutty 1660 09-15-2012 05:51:31 75.127.24.27 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Adirondack case guy, 09-15-2012 05:17:46   and a oil seal to keep the trans oil from following the shaft to the clutch right? I know the later constuction units did cnt [Reply]  [No Email]
Joe Young 09-15-2012 09:34:03 64.126.67.179 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 09-15-2012 05:51:31   That thought has been nagging me since the last post. There has to be some lubrication within the mainshaft so their is not metal to metal contact between the inner diameter of the mainshaft and the PTO shaft. Is the forward shaft that runs from the main clutch back to the hand clutch solid? It would have to be hollow for the independent PTO, but not for the constant running PTO that was used on the 300 and 200B. If it is solid the lubrication suggested above could be supplied by the hydraulic fluid if the PTO shaft were sealed at the rear of the main shaft. After studying the parts manual some more.... It looks like the expansion plug that Loren referenced at the rear of the mainshaft is replaced by a seal (p.n. G13802) when the PTO is installed. It has been too long since I've been inside the rear end and/or transmission..... See top left in the diagram below: [Reply]  [No Email]
Case Nutty 1660 09-15-2012 13:31:50 75.127.24.27 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Joe Young, 09-15-2012 09:34:03   Joe, it sure is nice to know I am not the only one that things like this drives us to examine books/info til we find the answer!! LOL just want to take time to say thank you to you and all for that matter that help here on the forum, you and others here dig and post info just to help THANK YOU I do know some what of what it takes to find the information in question cnt tom [Reply]  [No Email]
Joe Young 09-15-2012 18:08:48 64.126.67.179 Report to Moderator	Re: cse 200 in reply to Case Nutty 1660, 09-15-2012 13:31:50   Tom I appreciate the kind words. This place is a invaluable resource where we all get far more than we give. I only wish I had half the knowledge you and others here bring to the forum. Thanks again. Joe [Reply]  [No Email]