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Topic: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill?
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C. Amick

08-08-2012 20:49:25
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I have a disc and a hand crank seeder. I'm sure I will get a lot of the seed either too deep or not deep enough using the disc to cover it. I will have to sow it a little thicker to compensate. Any suggestions?

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Brokengun

08-09-2012 12:55:48
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
Locally we had a man that routinely planted wheat and beans using a fertilizer spreader to plant, he then ran a disc super light with a packer on the back.

He and his son could plant/disc 200acres a 10hr day.

He grew 50 bushels beans and 60bu wheat all the time.

I tried the same thing and it flopped.

So yes everyone but me can probably do fine

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old

08-09-2012 09:18:54
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
That is how I plant it for my food plots all the time other then I use a drag not a disk to cover the seed up. A disk will tend to cut up a lot of the seed and that in turn makes it not grow well if at all

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Florida Glenn

08-09-2012 11:14:48
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to old, 08-09-2012 09:18:54  
This might be true for wheat - I don't know as I've never planted any, but the disc works very well for black-eyed peas. Since I've started using this method, I've had bumper crops of peas. I tried both a drag and a acme harrow and they tend to "pull" the majority of pea seeds to the end of the row. I use an off-set King disc and it turns the pea seed under very nicely. As the plants grow, they compete for light and space and crowd out the majority of the weeds. Last year, I had black-eyed pea plants as high as my chest - makes it very easy to harvest.

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Dan in North Houston

08-09-2012 08:22:01
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
If you pull a spike tooth harrow to cover it, pull it at a slight angle so that the spikes are not in a straight line.
I have used this method to plant rye grass, and I have seen that it grows best exactly where the spike passed over the ground.

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tractor300

08-09-2012 08:14:43
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
Lot's of variables here that will effect yield. It will work sometimes and sometimes not, depending on ground condition, the winter, moisture and etc. Year in and year out for max yields I would recommend drilling.

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Florida Glenn

08-09-2012 06:26:57
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
I've planted black-eyed peas this way - sow seeds by hand, (broadcast), then turn seeds under with disc. Worked really good for me.

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Lamont

08-08-2012 21:49:43
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
What's there now? Is there any type of crop or grass or stubble there?

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c. amick

08-09-2012 06:57:32
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to Lamont, 08-08-2012 21:49:43  
It's sod now. I plan on plowing it up and disking it.

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Lamont

08-09-2012 18:14:54
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to c. amick, 08-09-2012 06:57:32  
If the vegetaion is tall enough, I like to go Roundup over the whole field, sow the wheat the next day, mow the vegetation down the next day at let it lay. Works great.

If the vegetation is too short to mow and you have to plow it under, just be sure to work it up enough to leave a "mulchy" layer on top. I'd sow it just before the last pass working the soil no more than 3 or 4 inches with a disk and harrow. Just make sure there's enough moisture there to sustain it for a couple of weeks.

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Ron Sa

08-09-2012 08:58:18
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to c. amick, 08-09-2012 06:57:32  
Need to get the plowing and disking and leveling done ASAP. That is going go create a thick layer of loose dirt that will dry out quickly with out rain.

Wait for a rain sufficient to get rid of any layer of dry dirt. Dig and look for a dry layer. It is not good for a sprouting seed's tap roots to encounter a dry layer of dirt. Wheat is tollerent of various planting depths but it needs moist soil beneath the seed without a dry layer. Otherwise, it will likely sprout and die.

Then scratch the surface with a harrow. Brodcast the seed and scratch again once or twice.

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casenut1

08-08-2012 21:15:26
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
put the wheat seed on with a cyclone style spreader , then hit it with a spring tooth harrow set a couple notches down.

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c. amick

08-09-2012 06:59:55
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to casenut1, 08-08-2012 21:15:26  
I don't have a spring tooth harrow, but I do have a spike toothed harrow with pretty small spikes. The angle of the spikes is adjustable forward and back.

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casenut1

08-09-2012 21:09:45
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to c. amick, 08-09-2012 06:59:55  
that will work.

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wolfman

08-08-2012 21:09:51
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to C. Amick, 08-08-2012 20:49:25  
It'l work. Only set your disk one notch to cover. Maybe totally straight (unset) and roll along 5 or 6 mph. Probably don't need to overseed.

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Doc Larry

08-09-2012 05:52:00
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Re: Can I plant winter wheat without a grain drill? in reply to wolfman, 08-08-2012 21:09:51  
I've spread pasture mix with a hand spreader, then run across it a single time with the disc set straight, and had pretty good results in small areas that needed to be seeded for one reason or another. I would think the same would also work with wheat...

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