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Case TCH oil equivalent?

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LJD

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I'm looking for a TCH equivalent to use in my 580CK backhoe/loader. The issue is the torque converter and hydraulic shuttle-shift. It has universal tractor fluid in it now (Deere HyGuard as I recall). I'm guessing it's too thick. Deere standard Hyguard is 20W. Works fine in temps above 40 degrees F. If colder, it barely moves until the oil gets warmed up. This morning it as 22 F and it would not move at all until it ran for 15 minutes.

I realize that Case-IH now sell Hytran Ultra as the TCH replacement. I'm must wondering if I can buy something local, like Dexron ATF, Type A auto trans oil, or Donax maybe? Or perhaps Deere Hyguard winter-grade?
 
you need to let the system warm up especialy at cooler temps, start engine leave gear shift in "N" place shuttle lever in either "FWD" or "REV" and run engine at 1200 to 1500 rpm for 5 - 20 minites depending on air temp, this should always be done to get trans ready for use, makes the shuttle clutchs last much longer cnt
 
Yes, that's what I'm doing now and it works fine afterwards. Just seems odd. I have two other machines with torque converters and they both work much better when cold. Big Pettibone backhoe with an Allison trans and converter along with a Allis Chalmers HD4 crawler-dozer. They both have Type A ATF in them.

The Case won't move when cold and also has coverter "drag" until it warms up. It's hard to shift it from neutral into gear unless warm and with the engine at the very lowest idle speed.
I'm just wondering if using different oil could improve it - since I've never had the TCH or any ATF in it.
 
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