I need to drain the hyd and trans oil in my 1961 Case 830 with the case-o-matic. Local Case IH dealer wants $15.00 a gallon for hy-tran. Are the universal substitutes from TSC or somewhere like that good enough to put in a tractor that won't probably get 50 or 75 hours a year? Or should I spend the extra and get the hy-tran? Thanks - Bob
- Thread starter Bobl1958
- Start date
Mike in Mn.
Member
I always used Case TCH in mine, now I use NAPA universal, make sure the label says it will replace Case fluid, I haven't noticed any change in performance.
miner09
Well-known Member
- Location
- Pattonville Texas
Case --JD etc don't make the oil. As long as the spec is for your make, its all the same. The only difference is the name on bucket. Who wants to pay extra for that. Kobota dealer told me if I didn't use their oil in my RTV it would not last. I don't use their oil and never had any trouble. Got 1000 hrs on it.
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
any good quality trans-draulic universal that is a 303 JD replacement will be fine though Hy-tran does have superior moisture carrying capability
Scott Bettenhausen
Member
I use Farm and Fleet hyd oil in everything now. Deere and the old Cases. The Deeres see the brunt of the work, and Ive never had any issues with it. Works just as well in the 770 and the 900's
Anonymous-0
Well-known Member
I use TSC universal HyTrans in Farmall B loader & in trans.-rear end of 450. Case IH dealer told me to make sure it was the same specs.as IH HyTrans. TSC hytrans (by 5 gallon bucket) runs about $8.40 a gallon.
Bob I have been down this path recently and it was a very expensive lesson.
I bought what I thought was a very cherry 1370 case. The first thing that I did was change all fluids.
The oil I used is a name brand oil that is listed for the case application. Within 60 hours I started losing the fiber disks in the power-shift less than 20 hours later the brakes disks went.
In the end I had to replace every fiber disk in the tractor.
Yes the new oil meets the specs for the Case but it dissolved the glue in the fiber disks.
Because your tractor is an old 830 Case-o-matic that has had Hytran in it before I would suggest that you DO NOT CHANGE TO ANOTHER BRAND.
If this was straight 30 series I would say probably yes but not a Case-O-Matic that has had Hytran in it before.
My fear is the new oil although it has the same rating will have a detergent in it that will eat-up your Case-o-matic clutch plates and maybe your seals.
It cost me $5000 to fix all of my problems, yes I found a couple of other issues that were unrelated but it was a very costly lesson and I done all the work
I bought what I thought was a very cherry 1370 case. The first thing that I did was change all fluids.
The oil I used is a name brand oil that is listed for the case application. Within 60 hours I started losing the fiber disks in the power-shift less than 20 hours later the brakes disks went.
In the end I had to replace every fiber disk in the tractor.
Yes the new oil meets the specs for the Case but it dissolved the glue in the fiber disks.
Because your tractor is an old 830 Case-o-matic that has had Hytran in it before I would suggest that you DO NOT CHANGE TO ANOTHER BRAND.
If this was straight 30 series I would say probably yes but not a Case-O-Matic that has had Hytran in it before.
My fear is the new oil although it has the same rating will have a detergent in it that will eat-up your Case-o-matic clutch plates and maybe your seals.
It cost me $5000 to fix all of my problems, yes I found a couple of other issues that were unrelated but it was a very costly lesson and I done all the work
Case Nutty 1660
Well-known Member
Brokengun and Agriking,, seems like we do this every month or so huh?? I agree completely even though the oil may spec out isn't your tractorsworth a few extra dollars to be sure cnt
Similar threads
We sell tractor parts! We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today.
Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.
All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.
Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters
Website Accessibility Policy