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!! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C

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john

02-02-2003 18:14:23
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I am trying to install new sleeves in model c. Two of the sleeves are tight without o rings. The other two went in good without o rings but when I put on o rings they were very tight. I am using green tinicure soap as lube. I took a short 2x4 on edge and gently tapped it in. I did that on the two easy ones. But I dont know about the other two. Was it ok to tap them in?




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Brandon

02-03-2003 18:17:35
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 Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to john, 02-02-2003 18:14:23  
John, Try putting the sleeves in a freezer for a few hours. This will shrink them and they will be easier to get in. Good luck! Brandon



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Joe 7214-758-1006

02-03-2003 17:32:16
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 Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to john, 02-02-2003 18:14:23  
I rebuilt a AC C last year first check the block
for build up at point ware sleves hit clean with
hone 2ED put sleves in on ice heat the block
use the soap if all is good thay will fall in
use RTV on O rings also I used the hone on block
for crosshatch for RTV to help seal also the liners should stand out .002to.005 from block for seal to head gasket use copper coat on head gasket torq. start heat up and retorq. the head bolts my C beat 2 AC WD's on its first pull in 3500 class call any time

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Joe 7214-758-1006

02-03-2003 17:29:15
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 Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to john, 02-02-2003 18:14:23  
I rebuilt a AC C last year first check the block
for build up at point ware sleves hit clean with
hone 2ED put sleves in on ice heat the block
use the soap if all is good thay will fall in
use RTV on O rings also I used the hone on block
for crosshatch for RTV to help seal also the liners should stand out .002to.005 from block for seal to head gasket use copper coat on head gasket torq. start heat up and retorq. the head bolts my C beat 2 AC WD's on its first pull in 3500 class call any time

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Dick L

02-02-2003 19:11:40
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 Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to john, 02-02-2003 18:14:23  
You just need to clean more material out of the other two so the sleeves will slide in by hand and turn. The first two are probably alright. A person should have all of them so the sleeves will slide all the way down and turn before starting to install the "O" rings. I use the palm of my hand on a wood block laying over the top of the sleeve to seat them. I use a 2" flapper wheel on an air grinder or elictric drill to clean out the crud that builds up in the bottom lands.

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rudy

02-03-2003 16:33:30
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 Re: Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to Dick L, 02-02-2003 19:11:40  
might help to put them in the freezer for a couple hours before u try to install them also



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Dick L Sorry Folks

02-04-2003 12:21:54
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 Re: Re: Re: !! NEED HELP INSTALLING SLEEVES IN C in reply to rudy, 02-03-2003 16:33:30  
Don't get mixed up between wet and dry sleeves. Dry sleeves are the ones you would put in a freezer to shrink and then expand after they seek the same temp as the block. This will keep them from moving in place. This is a wet sleeve engine and the land at the bottom is not designed to take the pressure of a sleeve larger than the diameter of the sealing area of the bottom land. The sealing is designed to use two "O" rings in this area. The instructions from Allis Chalmers is as I stated above. The sleeve is to slide down in place and be able to turn by hand with out hanging up without "O" rings. If you do not have the proper clearance and freeze the sleeves, when they expand out to size, you could possibly crack the bottom land and need a different block.

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