moving an Allis WC

HI!
Am I thinking wrong? I recently went to move my WC after I had pulled the engine and wanted to get it onto a trailer, it has set for years since we last moved it, but at that time I just took it out of gear and pulled it to the spot it was at. it was around 5 degrees this day but I thought this was going to be a piece of cake, WRONG! long story short- I could not get the wheels to "free wheel" I pulled of the cover of the tranny with the shift lever to see if I could get it to pop out of gear but it was out of gear, I jacked up the rear end so back tires were off the ground, so I could turn them they will move but one wheel turns cw and the other ccw. never as I was turning the tires did I see any movement out of the shafts in the tranny... through a lot of screwing around I slide it onto the trailer.
after moving it I jacked up the wheels off the ground again and I got the wheels to turn independently, it was around 40 degrees that day, I let it set a week and since it was still on jacks I tried to turn the wheels and again, one wheel turns cw and the other ccw, if I block one wheel so it doesn't turn then I turn the other about 3 reveloutions and it comes to a complete stop ...will not turn and further!
all I have is the frame of the tractor I want to push it into the garage but I'm thinking if I drop it back onto the ground and give it a push it will not move for me...IE it will not coast

What am I not seeing?
What am I doing wrong?
is it just cold and stiff?

thanks for your help!
bushnellman
I've tried to pull it with my 4x4, would not move
 
that's want they're supposed to do of they are up on blocks. Now if you're pulling it and it's out of gear and they turn opposite directions, one or both are not getting enough traction to "grip" the ground. Keith
 
Forgot to mention the not moving part. It's quite possible unless you're in a warm climate, that you have water in the tranny or rear end or both and it has frozen& it sure will freeze. Probably wouldn't want to pull or push it for fear of that ice breaking something. If you can, get some heat on it to thaw it out.
 
I know of a fellow in Arkansas that had this exact problem with a WD due to mud daubers jamming the pinion gear. Just had to clean it out, but he required an additional set of eyes to spot the problem.
 
yea I was thinking ice too, it just seems so hard for water to get in there! But come to think of it I had moved it a little back in August then it was warm/hot!
ill try the heat
thanks
 
Water makes it way in in two ways/ Condensation and also down the shiftier it self and believe me it does not take a big opening for a lot of water to seep in. You can pour some HEET in and then open the transmission drain plug just to the point you start getting a drip so the water will leak out once it becomes liquid again
 

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