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hey old! stuck CA question

grandpa Love

grandpa Love

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So while I'm at work my wife has been busy. She has the manifold off and says that the exhaust holes are full of "bugs, pinestraw, and dirt dabber nest.". To clean that mess out do we need to take value cover off? She was gonna fill it up with ATF but says there's a lot of crap in there. Also , ATF in exhaust and spark plug holes? Thanks!
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At this point no need to pull the valve cover. I would use a bent screw driver or a set of and I can not off the top of my head remember what there called but I have a set of tools that have a sort of pick like end to them that works well for pulling junk like that out of those holes and also use a good bit of compressed air to blow as much out as you can. Once you get it to spin over the exhaust areas will self clean but the intake you need to clean out real well or that junk will end up in the engine then out the exhaust
 
Thank you. My wife got em cleaned out fairly good. Got the ATF in there. Now we wait. I guess it should sit about a week? Do you know if we can test the starter and generator? Wondering if they any good. At this point most of the wires have been nibbled on by squirrels. Also if it has a generator then it's a 6 volt system? Thanks again.
 
Looking at the condition of that engine I'd certainly pull off the head and take a look as most likely you'll end up doing it anyway and probably do more damage trying to loosen it up if you don't.
 
I would take the valve cover off and make sure all the valves will move up and down, you don't want to bend a push rod or do some other damage if a valve is stuck and you get the rest of the engine to turn over. Give it a lot of time and don't be too forceful when trying to get it to turn.
 
Any that I have had with the manifold in that condition had water in a couple of the cylinders that had destroyed the sleeves. I have a picture of one that actually had rusted all the way thru the sleeve at the top of the piston. I'll see if I an find it.
I personally would not mess with trying to free it up. Just me but I would remove the head so I could see what had happened. I hate guessing on hidden conditions when it only takes a few minutes to open it up and see for myself.
 
You can pull the starter and try it with a good battery with jumper cables and the generator you can use the motor test and if it motors it is good
 
With all due respect to Old and his experiences mine have been the exact opposite. I would never think of trying to turn that engine without at least removing the valve cover and checking for stuck valves as broken parts are a certainty and they cost much more than a valve cover gasket.
I would also expect to find cylinder bores that look like DickL's pictures or worse. Rust is as hard as emery cloth or sandpaper. Do you really want that grinding away at the engine internals if it does break loose? Not me or my engines but to each his own, good luck with it.
 
Over the year I have in fact bent a couple push rods but they are cheap. That is one reason I tell people to if they can pour ATF down the exhaust that way at least the exhaust valve which are the ones most likely to be stuck get lubed up real well before spinning one over. I have a C that I have not used in a number of years and it was stuck form sitting and I did the ATF treatment to it a couple weeks ago and yesterday I set a battery in it and it spun over so I then cleaned the points and put some gas in and it fired right up. It did put out a lot of smoke for the first 10-15 minutes but ran just fine
 
Old has made me such a strong believer in ATF that I have started adding it to my morning grits.
 
I just used some ATF on a PTO shaft a guy called about this morning. Pictures of what he did to it are in tractor talk
 
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