fred goodrich
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May have to try this one out!
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Traditional Farmer
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Looks like a good old Roto baler and a White Top to boot.Does it have the overdrive unit?
fred goodrich
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Teach me, what is the overdrive unit? It needs some teeth anybody know where to get them?
Many years ago I learned to hate one of them things. Had one for one summer and got rid of it before fall because it was such a pain in the back sides to use and to handle the bales. I have turned down probably 10 or more of them at auctions where I could have gotten them for under $25 each
Traditional Farmer
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If you turned down a White Top Roto Baler for $10 you lost at least $500 that day.
Traditional Farmer
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The overdrive unit will be between the 90 degree gearbox the PTO shaft hooks to and the main part of the baler some of those later units had them some not.Those teeth are hard to find
no longer made that I know of.Might try over on the unofficial AC site or post a wanted ad here on this site.
no longer made that I know of.Might try over on the unofficial AC site or post a wanted ad here on this site.
Traditional Farmer
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You gotta be an optimist to sell things(LOL) There is a buyer out there for everything.
Aaron SEIA
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The only buyers around here are the Chinese at $100 a ton.
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Mike(NEOhio)
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My neighbor across the road had one his dad bought new. Never got a lot of hard use and was in beautiful condition when he sold it. A couple of guys from SE Ohio came to get it and swooned when they saw it. They "use" them and already had several other.
good luck, hope yours works better than the one I bought.
handling the bales could be a pain as they want to roll off the wagon, roll around in the barn.
I looked as some old AC films of the roto baler in use. They just bailed the hay and left it lay in the large open fields, the cattle fed on it all winter, they never brought it to the barns.
basically the some concept as the large round bales
handling the bales could be a pain as they want to roll off the wagon, roll around in the barn.
I looked as some old AC films of the roto baler in use. They just bailed the hay and left it lay in the large open fields, the cattle fed on it all winter, they never brought it to the barns.
basically the some concept as the large round bales
re handling the bales....Dad built two 8x12 wagons, with 12 inch sides...used for bales, ear corn, and oats. AC bales could be stacked across the width, or lengthwise, depending on whether we unloaded with slings with the hay carrier into the hay mow, or stacked on the ground or into the hay shed. Key to making a good AC bale is making a good double curl windrow. old complains about the AC baler, but once he said he used it for less than one cutting....sorry, old, I"m not convinced that you gave it a good try.
Neighbor had two of these AC round balers. He had one of the last white top ones made. He said the older baler worked better. I do not know why he stated that but he did. He would let the one pasture grow out then he would cut and bale it later in the summer. HE would then just let the cows into it in early winter. They would find and eat the hay bales. He like it as the spread out small bales kept the cattle from tearing up the grass like they do around large round bales when fed.
Butch(OH)
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They bring lots more than scrap at the sales I attend, unless they are indeed scrap. Like all other non-conventional equipment people either love them or hate them. I grew up on a mostly A-C farm and dad wouldn't own one of them on a bet. I have worked with them at the various AC shows, mostly handling the bales and I can say that I am glad that Dad chose to use a square baler, LOL.
Traditional Farmer
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When you handle the bales you need hay hooks and one of the hooks needs to be a little open to be able to release the bales when you throw them.Also need to have standards on the front and back of the wagon to scotch the bales.Using hay hooks is much easier on the hands than strings on a square bale and they don't break apart either like square bales even if mice chew the string while they're in the barn.I'd much rather handle the small rounds over square bales.Hay quality is better than square bales as all the leaves don't get knocked off the hay like in a square baler.The key to making a good bale is to rake the hay evenly on both sides of the windrow and have the windrow the same width as the chain on the pickup platform.AC made an elevator
to go on a tractor to pick them up and fall on the wagon being pulled by the tractor,someone must like the round bales I know of an elevator that sold not long ago for $1700.That White Top baler will bring $500 easy if its in as good condition as it looks.
to go on a tractor to pick them up and fall on the wagon being pulled by the tractor,someone must like the round bales I know of an elevator that sold not long ago for $1700.That White Top baler will bring $500 easy if its in as good condition as it looks.
looks like a good baler. If no one has yet told you--standing behind the baler looking forward in the lower right hand corner is a drum with a brake lining around it. Make sure the lining is not stuck to the drum. Do not attempt to make a bale until you do this. Use a lot of oil on the twine mechanism under the hood. I do not think the twine knife is available any more. It must be kept very sharp. Around here that baler would bring $1500-2000. I have made 10's of thousands of bales with 1 and thousands of bales with a square baler. I much prefer the round baler. It was the only 1 man baler built in the 1950's and 1970's.
Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Agrimson Tool makes knife & springs sets for these. Google them. Mike
Dad made an elevator that mounted on the "39 WC...bale went under the left rear axle, then got picked up by the elevator, and loaded onto the wagon. It worked, but had to be mounted, so not used for just a few loads. Later, late 50s...he made a pull-type, ground driven thru a car transmission. I"m the kid on the wagon.
Nice baler....I have a white top thats only baled a little over 1600 bales total since it was purchased brand new by a neighbor 5 miles away...My brother was working for our local AC dealer and delivered it..
About 7-8 years ago I watched a like new white top sell for $700-800 near Greenfield,MO..Real good ones still bring lots more than scrap..I need to see if I can dig out some pictures of these 2 balers..
About 7-8 years ago I watched a like new white top sell for $700-800 near Greenfield,MO..Real good ones still bring lots more than scrap..I need to see if I can dig out some pictures of these 2 balers..
Traditional Farmer
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- Virginia
That's great information as anyone knows that has successfully run one of these balers it needs all the springs in place and the right springs.
Destroked 450
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Dad had one that I baled with back in the 60's and early 70's.
We square baled the first cutting then rolled the second, in late fall we turned the cattle into those fields, after they had eaten down the grass they'd eat on the round bales, after they had finished eating the small round bales we'd move them to closer to the barn and finish out the winter with square bales.
Best tractor to use with one of those balers was a WD with it's snap over hand clutch.
My BIL bought one of those for $50 back in 1980. A week later he bought an IH 46 baler for a few hundred dollars and thought what am I going to do with the Roto baler now that I have a square baler. The first summer he used the IH baler he ended up needing the little round baler and after three years of trying to get the IH 46 baler to work he finally sold it and used the AC baler exclusively - lot of stop and go when you're putting up a couple thousand a year with a 656 tractor. Some time in the mid 1980s with equipment going cheap from the farm crisis he bought a pretty good John Deere 336(?) and never used the little round baler again. The top got used as a canopy on a Case 970 and the axles and frame modified to make a big round bale carrier.
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