C Hydraulic Pump

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Trying to run my 2 row cultivator to work on my '47 C.

Way back when I first got the cultivator roughly 10 years ago I put the cultivator put on and it picked it up great but wouldn't hold it up. Took then I took the cultivator off, cleaned the pump and dad had quit row crop so I didn't have much reason to wrangle the cultivator back on. Two years ago I tried it again, it wouldn't let it down. It picked it up great but would hold it up for days on end but would not let it down. Took it back apart this spring, noticed the thimble/spring follower for the relief valve had some burrs on the bottom so thinking it was maybe binding I sanded it a tad to smooth it up (worth a shot vs $70 for a new tiny little thing from AGCO) and tried it again this year.

Now it won't lift, it tries but just can't do it. It will turn the bare rockshaft and almost lift just the rightmost gang (chosen at random) high enough to lock it. With just the rockshaft I can stop it by hand and even push it back in. I can tell it wants to hold in the hold position. No relief valve chatter like I read about as if the valve is reliving at too low of a pressure (unless it is really quiet at very low pressure) I couldn't get it to move this last time when I had it apart but the relief valve seat is about 5/8" deep which is the upper limit in the book rather than the ideal 9/16"... which should increase rather than decrease pressure. It has Hytran in the transmixer. Only using the one little cylinder A-C graced it with on the factory made A-C two row cultivator for my sweet corn patch. Any ideas? I cultivated it today by unhooking and hooking up the lift rods today and it wasn't all that fun.
 
Reading back through this I think I answered my own question. No matter what the "pump" part is doing, if the relief valve is going to do anything it should at least hold it up. Suppose it is leaking past the relief valve when trying to lift the same as it is when it is trying to hold?
 
You could be right. Did you change the oil in the past ? Dirt or crud could be stuck in a passage and allowing leakage . I have rebuilt a few pumps and when done I put a gauge on the end of the 1/4 inch hose instead of the cylinder and test the pressure and see that it holds. You don't need 3200 psi, but I like to check and see that I have at least 2800 or more... That little cylinder don't much surface area and low PSI means poor lift.
 
Pulled it back off, going to put new balls in it and recheck the seats. The lower "suction" seats are drilled and tapped to be pulled out... any tricks to do it? We tried threading a bolt in and prying and a slidehammer and they will not budge.
 

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