XT190 gas lesson learned the hard way

Whichester1 · Jan 1, 2014

I know these tractors are obsolete but we have one for chore duties. Has always been difficult to start when cold. I took the carburetor to an "expert", took him a while but he fixed it and told me to add an in-line filter before the carb. The engine was not getting enough fuel to start when cold.
Hope this helps somebody else.

Bob Bancroft · Jan 1, 2014

I've never been next to a 190XT gas. But all the diesels I've seen have two deep sediment bowls. That should be plenty of protection for a gas tractor, assuming they are serviced as necessary. I still like that old fashioned technology as all it takes is a glance and you have an idea of what's going on.

old · Jan 1, 2014

I have found in the years of messing with old tractor putting on an in line fuel filter is a problem waiting t happen. They then to clog and also tend to restrict fuel flow and also due to the rubber fuel line can cause fires. I have had countless call to fix tractor and many times the fix if throwing the in line filter away. The screen and sediment bowl should be enough filtering for any system

rustred · Jan 1, 2014

makes no sense to me. how does adding a filter make the carb get more fuel? those filter were designed for the fuel pump to pump the gas though them, don't work worth a damm on gravity. whats wrong with the original filtering system?

Whichester1 · Jan 1, 2014

I am following my technician's advice. The sediment bulbs/filters seen too course allowing dirt/rust to pass. I added a Fram clear filter between the lift pump and the steel line to the carb. so there is only about 2" of rubber type line.
Time will tell if this fixes the problem for years. The real trick was to get a technician that knew how to rebuild the carburetor. These guys are retiring, etc. If you know a young technician that knows his stuff suggest you develop a relationship as the people that repaired these tractors when they were new are retiring, passing away, etc.
Hope this helps.

old · Jan 1, 2014

If you have the correct sediment bowl and screen in it there is zero need for any thing other then the elbow screen in the carb. O have a D-17 that fills the sediment bowl with rust in as in 1.2 inch deep in 5 gal of gas and I never have carb problems with it. I just make sure I dump and clean it every day an have been running it that way for years now. It is slowing down. Pulled it out of a fence row and boy what a mess when I got it but runs fine now and has for years

bg/mo · Jan 2, 2014

should have no problem with the inline filter being you have a fuel pump, most trouble comes from the gravity flow systems the filter slows things up, I had to put one on a farmall h because the garbage was too fine for sediment bowl to catch.I put it as close to the tank as i could.

dzc3 · Jan 3, 2014

I have used inline fuel filters on gravity fuel tanks and ones with fuel pumps they solve a lot of problems and are cheaper than trying to replace a damaged screen or leaking gasket in a sediment bowl. Yep they do get dirty and you have to get another, but cause problems...I don't think so

VicS · Jan 4, 2014

O you guys, The sediment bowl is the problem. It reduces flow. If you screw a 1/4 in pipe tee into your tank with a 3 in. pipe and cap on the bottom and a 90 degree shutoff going to the carb. then use a 3/8 in line filter you will have no trouble till the filter stops up. And you will have no rust in your carb either. Have set up a few pulling tractors like this with no problems.

CTuckerNWIL · Jan 6, 2014

So for the last 40 some years all 190 gassers had a restricted fuel supply. I think NOT. Put the proper sediment bowl in and clean it when it gets dirty. You will never have a problem with rust from the tank getting to the carb as long as the screen is good and you won't have to rebuild the carb because of crubs of rubber gas line inside it.

gtx1967jewison · Jan 12, 2014

Obviously you've never actually used one on a gravity feed tractor. We have a 50hp pulling tractor that will sit on the dyno at full load as long as you want & never run out of fuel. The gas runs out on the ground exactly as fast as before the filter if you remove the line at the carb. The filters are designed NOT to restrict flow- they have enormous surface area for one thing.

T in NE · Feb 15, 2014

I'm not seeing how a rubber gas line is a fire waiting to happen unless you're routing it up and over the exhaust manifold.

rustyfarmall · Feb 16, 2014

(quoted from post at 15:09:13 02/15/14) I'm not seeing how a rubber gas line is a fire waiting to happen unless you're routing it up and over the exhaust manifold.

I am one who used to strongly advise AGAINST those rubber fuel lines, but I now have 2 tractors with them. If the tractor will never be driven or used out in the sticks and brush where there is a chance for something to snag the fuel line, then a rubber fuel line will be just fine, and a whole lot easier to install. Just be sure to route that fuel line the same as the original, steel line and it will be just fine.

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