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Re: I-60 Won't Move / Clutch not Working

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11-18-2013 15:28:49

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Hi Dave,

I would appreciate a look at the attached picture for confirmation and a question or two. Three fill spots are visible.

Visible Spots from Left to Right, integrating your info:

#1 dipstick is for the differential, 89W90 gear oil.

#2 is the tranny, Universal hy-tran is fine.

#3 is Power director(shuttle clutch), again hy-tran.

Q1: Do we have the above right?

#1 is currently quite low and is orangish in color.

#2 is currently that thick greyish sludge.

#3 is currently quite low and is pinkish in color.

Do the current colors of the fluids make sense to you? ...
Does Differential 80W90 appear clearish orange after aging ?

Does Tranny Hy-Tran appear thick grey after aging ?

Does Power Director Hy-Tran appear clearish pink after aging ?

I have NOT identified your #4 as "on the left side, behind operator's position, Hyd compartment, again Hy-tran."

( #5 motor oil is obvious )

I have NOT identified your #6 as "power steering hole, 5W20 non detergent"


It appears as though by design or bypass repair, the steering cylinder (looks like just a normal Hydraulic Cylinder), is connected to the #3 system, the pinkish one, near the bottom. Comments on this would be MOST HELPFUL and possibly explain the pink fluid.

This post was edited by PraSand at 15:52:25 11/18/13 2 times.

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11-20-2013 18:19:40

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 Re: I-60 Won't Move / Clutch not Working in reply to PraSand, 11-18-2013 15:28:49  
Just checked my D-15, today, you are right, the 2 fill points closest to each other, #1 is tranny/differential. #2 is PD/shuttle clutch. #3 is hyd. #4 is motor, #5 is PS. There is no #6. Hope this makes it clear as mud! Gorgot to mention, if you take the side plate off the PD compartment, you can at least get a look at the PD/shuttle clutch. It is the plate with the 2 cooler lines coming out of it, LS, under your heel.

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11-18-2013 17:39:23

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 Re: I-60 Won't Move / Clutch not Working in reply to PraSand, 11-18-2013 15:28:49  
Just so I know we are talking apples to apples, here, is your tractor a reversed forklift? Big wheels on the front? OK, as to colors of fluids, grey to chocolate most likely is water in the oil. Pink might be that someone dumped ATF into the compartment, believing that is what should be used. On a used tractor, I would never be surprised what someone has dumped into it. 1, 2, 3, sounds right. #4, look at your picture, under the gas tank. See the round breather cap, by the 2 wires? It has a dip stick about 6" long, attached to the bottom, unless someone broke it off. # 6 is a cylindrical object 2-3" tall, about 1-1/4" in diameter, behind the radiator, toward the right side, down into the front casting. Hope this helps some.

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