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MI AC Parsons

08-11-2013 20:19:02




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used to spin wheels in and out for cultivating as a kid on dad's WD. Got a D-12 that I'd like to move the wheels in a bit. Got all the lugs loose just fine, but can find nothing to fit the 9/16" square bolt on the sliders. Crescent won't do it. What do you guys use... a special A/C wrench? And where from? Thanks




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Part Time Pete

08-15-2013 09:34:19




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
To make them a little easier to turn, the last time I had the wheels off my D-14, I drilled and tapped the cam bolts (if that's what they're called)and put in grease zerks. Now if I can remember to keep them greased
Pete



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monkeywrench100

08-15-2013 02:07:19




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
An 8 pt socket will work. I got my set from Cornwell. AC did make a square wrench for this. They sometimes come up on ebay. I bought one for my dad for his WD.



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david hamblin

08-12-2013 23:01:01




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
craftsman make 8 pt sockets thanks dave



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MI AC Parsons

08-12-2013 18:34:07




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
Yep, DiyDave, it IS 1/2" and with an extender over it, got everything to move. Am looking for an 8 pt socket set, 'cause I've got 7 Allis's. Thanks for the help.



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Diydave

08-13-2013 03:15:37




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-12-2013 18:34:07  
D10/12, and the CA's with spin outs are the only ones, that I know of that use the 1/2" square. D14 and up, came with a dual hex head, budd type adjusting wrench and handle. And they were bigger hex heads on the bigger tractors.



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old

08-12-2013 19:06:37




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-12-2013 18:34:07  
That should be 12cpoint socket which are common as dirt. The 6 point do not work well on square head stuff but the 12 point do just fine but is it is say a 1/2 inch you need a 9/16 or 5/8s on it.



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Diydave

08-12-2013 03:21:53




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
I think the square bolt head on the d-12 is a 1/2". Sometimes people imitate apes, and hammer on things they don't understand! Hammering mushrooms the head. What I use is an old chinese 4" extension, with a 1/2" socket welded to the male end, backwards. If that doesn't move it, rotate the clamp to the top, and remove the 2 5/8" carriage bolts, that hold the clamp to the center, and slide it out. Put it in a vice, coat liberally with your favorite penetrating oil. and hit the cam screw with an impact gun, backwards, and forwards. Note it is not really a screw, just a cam. Once you get it moving, pop the snap ring off the back, pull the cam out, and apply never seize liberally, and re-assemble. Don't lose the rail rider, that goes between the cam, and rail!

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willie in mn

08-11-2013 23:12:24




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
In a pinch try a 12 point socket. If a 5/8" or 11/16" doesn't fit, go to your metric set, 16 or 17mm should be close enough.
Shouldn't need to loosen any lug bolts.
Willie



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J Long

08-11-2013 21:41:18




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
I use an 8 point socket and extension with a breaker bar. Retired mechanic.



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old

08-11-2013 21:03:21




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to MI AC Parsons, 08-11-2013 20:19:02  
Simple open end wrench is all I have ever used. Sorry them fit all wrenches are for wannabes and are made to get you by. Yes I have a crescent wrench that is on my key ring and yes it has gotten me out of a lot of things but when I want to do real work I get a true wrench in the correct size



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Allis Dave

08-12-2013 07:41:45




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 Re: spin out wheel wrench in reply to old, 08-11-2013 21:03:21  
Find an 8 point socket set if you want to do much work on an Allis. I have a set.



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