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Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox

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Meangreen

01-22-2013 13:43:51
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There is supposed to be the drain plug for that part of the tractor at the bottom of the PTO gear box, so yeah there is oil right behind that plate.

The fill holes are located inside the frame on left hand, carb side, of the tractor. The plugs in the holes have a square head on them. One is large and the other small with the larger one being closer to the rear of the tractor.




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Jeff Kinnett

01-22-2013 13:54:45
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Meangreen, 01-22-2013 13:43:51  
so 5 gallon bucket under the temporary plate when I take it off to capture oil that comes out, now my shop and service manual show filler plugs but none for the PTO gearbox you said it's inside the frame, if I'm standing in front of the carburetor is fill plug for pto around this area



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bg/mo

01-22-2013 16:45:56
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Jeff Kinnett, 01-22-2013 13:54:45  
The pto transmission and rear diff all share the same oil , so yes there is no fill plug for just the pto. By the clutch pedal inside the frame rail there are two square headed plugs they both need to be filled with oil to fill all the areas.the pto is the lowest point of that oil cavity. I think the belt pulley plug is different.



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Jeff Kinnett

01-22-2013 17:09:19
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to bg/mo, 01-22-2013 16:45:56  
Bg/mo, huge help thank you so much that's the answer I been waiting for that it does share the oil of diff.,tranny,clutch. so the plate bolted on the bottom of the tractor where the PTO gearbox should be, if I take that off to install my PTO gearbox I restored , i will have oil gushing out. is this correct if you answer yes then I have my information thank you so much



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bg/mo

01-23-2013 13:38:51
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Jeff Kinnett, 01-22-2013 17:09:19  
yes if you remove that plate you will have oil, just loosen it and let it drain then install your pto, it will have a drain plug in it then ,you will need a five gallon bucket all together trany pto an differential hold just alittle less than five gal.



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Brian G. NY

01-22-2013 19:32:05
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Jeff Kinnett, 01-22-2013 17:09:19  
A very large portion of that 17 Qts of gear oil will certainly come "gushing" out when you pull that plate off.
If that plate does not have a plug screwed into it (apparently it does not) you can drain some of the oil from the other two drain plugs and finish by loosening the plate and putting a 5 gal pail under it as someone has already suggested.
It will be a little messy; don't you just hate the smell of gear oil when you get it all over yourself? LOL
As stated, check the condition of that intermediate gear in the bottom of the tranny to assure it has no teeth missing. It can, however, be replaced without splitting the tractor.

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Brian G. NY

01-22-2013 19:35:45
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Brian G. NY, 01-22-2013 19:32:05  
After I went back and read all the fine responses by the other guys, I determined that I hadn't added anything of significance! LOL



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BushogPapa

01-24-2013 12:53:51
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 Re: 1953 Allis Chalmers WD 45 PTO gearbox in reply to Brian G. NY, 01-22-2013 19:35:45  
Be SURE you are going to use a PTO Gearbox for a WD-45 and NOT a WD..they are stronger..

AND, have the upper ears Magnafluxed, to be SURE they are not in any way flawed...

Ron..



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