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Re: D15 live PTO

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Bob Bancroft

12-30-2012 17:15:54

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Certainly. It sounds as if someone removed the power director lever? So the only clutch you have is the foot clutch? Just 4 forward speeds and 1 reverse? So now you have no live PTO? And a dangerous run-away situation if you try to run a bush hog without an over running clutch?

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Larry Stinson

12-30-2012 17:28:39

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 Re: D15 live PTO in reply to Bob Bancroft, 12-30-2012 17:15:54  
They must have removed the PD. I do not have the PD lever. So yes the only clutch I have is the foot clutch with 4 forward gears & reverse. Right directly behind the foot clutch is a foot pedal. I step on to go forward or reverse. When its sitting flat its in neutral. From what your describing sounds like someone converted the PD lever to the foot pedal. Because I have looked in all my books and don't see any foot pedal for going forward or reverse

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12-31-2012 05:49:53

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 Re: D15 live PTO in reply to Larry Stinson, 12-30-2012 17:28:39  
Larry, there's no telling without pictures, what you have. Originally, D-15 ag tractors would have a PD hi-lo, on the RS, with a PTO lever, on the left, right behind the clutch. PTO is semi-live, with this set-up. You can snap the PD into neutral, and the PTO stays running, while the tractor coasts, or stops. To put the PTO into gear, you have to step on the clutch.

Now here's where complications arise, They also made the yellow line (construction) D-15, and it's later counterparts, the I-60, and I-600. These yellow tractors were available with a shuttle (F-R) clutch, on the left side of the tranny. Also they made later models 615, and the RL451 loader, on the D-15 base chassis. The RL451, was a reversed loader, with the same Shuttle clutch, only I think it used the foot pedal, you describe, as your tractor has. The main complication is, that there are several models of tractor, that can be assembled like a giant tinkertoy, as the components all readily bolt right up. With enough engineers, a tractor can end up looking far different, than it did when it left the factory. Look in Swinford's construction book, if you want the full story.

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Bob Bancroft

12-30-2012 17:42:17

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 Re: D15 live PTO in reply to Larry Stinson, 12-30-2012 17:28:39  
OK, so it's been modified. When built by AC, it would have had a power director, or a shuttle clutch. The clutch is basically the same, just the gearing to it is changed. On some machines with shuttle clutch lever(mounted on the left) there is also a foot pedal, or "treadle" You should still have a neutral with that. When the shuttle clutch was installed, reverse was blocked out. So you had forward and reverse in each of four gears.

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Larry Stinson

12-30-2012 17:50:27

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 Re: D15 live PTO in reply to Bob Bancroft, 12-30-2012 17:42:17  
That's correct. It must have been modified. Hell maybe a one armed guy owned it or something. That's why I've been confused on the PTO lever. My Allis looks nothing like the ones in the book. Seems like all my "gals" look nothing like whats in the book.

Thanks again for all your help fellas. I'm sure I'll have more questions later on. :)

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