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Re: WD starter switch is sparking

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PTG in MN

12-28-2012 15:26:03
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Ok I"ll try that. If that"s the case am I lucky enough that Pulling and reinstalling the starter will fix it? Or is the potential jam a permanent thing thus needing replacement?




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Ted J

12-29-2012 04:36:08
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 Re: WD starter switch is sparking in reply to PTG in MN, 12-28-2012 15:26:03  
If it happens frequently, you can split the tractor and move the ring gear. You can move it 90 degrees, but I would rather install a new one.
Did you REALLY clean up the starter before you put it back together? The bendix needs to slide on the starter real good. Crud on the shaft can keep it from coming back, a bad spring or the teeth could be bad on the bendix or on the ring gear.
Things to look out for.

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PTG in MN

12-30-2012 10:12:09
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 Re: WD starter switch is sparking in reply to Ted J, 12-29-2012 04:36:08  
Good points. I cleaned it to make sure it came back ok. However I"m sure I could have been more detailed.

If it happens again, or on a warmer day, what do you guys recommend using on the shaft to clean it good. Carb cleaner?

Also what is the correct type of lube to use on the shaft? 3 in one oil? Or a lithium type grease?

Any thoughts are welcome. I"m just glad it"s running again! I use it to plow snow and here in MN you can"t go to long with a broken tractor for plowing snow.

Thanks again guys. I love this forum.

Paul

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12-30-2012 13:23:50
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 Re: WD starter switch is sparking in reply to PTG in MN, 12-30-2012 10:12:09  
On the starter drive you want NO LUBE of any kind. To clean spray with brake cleaner spray because it leave the least residue behind and you want the starter drive area clean and shiny. Grease and oils collect dirt and dust which in turn makes the drive stick and that in turn causes problems like you had



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Diydave

12-28-2012 16:20:46
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 Re: WD starter switch is sparking in reply to PTG in MN, 12-28-2012 15:26:03  
The welding of the contacts could have blown the solder out of the armature, causing one or more of the brush contacts to rise up, and jam against the brushes. Remove starter, listen and feel if the drive retracts, as you remove. If it feels like something moved, as starter was removed, pull the brush inspection band,and look at the armature, to see if any contacts have risen. If it looks good, hook jumper cables to a good battery, and try hitting the switch, with the starter laying on the ground. The drive should pop out and spin freely. If starter passes this test, stick a big screwdriver in the starter hole, and pry on the ring gear, inspecting the teeth, and seeing if the motor is not locked up. Flywheel needs to rotate freely 360 degrees.

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